Pflueger Supreme Spinning Reel

[zelmo]

Can someone tell me which model is the same size as the 2500 Shimano reels?

Also, several have commented that they like this reel better than the Symetre.  How does it compare to the Saros or Stradic?

[ABC123]

I have the 8030's. They are slightly smaller than the 2500's. If Shimano made 1500's and 2000's also, then I would say it would be equal to a 2000. I use 8lb mono on mine with out any issue at all. Unless you plan on puting it on a rod rated for more than 3/4oz and plan on using more than 10lb mono, the 8030, IMO, will work just fine. These are in between size reels, they don't even compare to the President spinning reels either.

As far as comparing them to the Shimano's, well, that's an opinion thing. IMO, the "value" is much better with the Supreme.

 

 

[zelmo]

Thanks. I am going to put it on a Kistler 6'6" MH that is rated up to 3/4 oz. I do like the idea of a slightly smaller reel without getting into the tiny category.

Update:

I found this info at their site.

25 = ultra light (this is the small standard size reel)

30 = light freshwater

35 = medium light freshwater

40 = medium freshwater

50 = heavy freshwater/medium saltwater

60 = medium saltwater

70 = heavy saltwater

80 = heavy saltwater

[5bass]

I use the 8035MG Supreme's mostly but I do have an 8030MG which fishes 6# real well.

[Masshole Mike]

i've got a 35 supreme and a 35 president. the supreme is slightly smaller and noticeably lighter than the president. i run 8# on the president and i'm putting 6# on the supreme.

[Tokyo Tony]

Shimano 2500 size is like a Supreme 8032.5 if they made it.  I have an 8035 and it's a very tasty reel.

Compared to the Stradic FI, it's definitely different.  It's lighter, but the Stradic feels a little more solid to me and casts a little farther.  I would hesitate to use the Supreme in saltwater, but would not hesitate to use my Stradic in saltwater.

[ABC123]

Thanks. I am going to put it on a Kistler 6'6" MH that is rated up to 3/4 oz. I do like the idea of a slightly smaller reel without getting into the tiny category.

Update:

I found this info at their site.

25 = ultra light (this is the small standard size reel)

30 = light freshwater

35 = medium light freshwater

40 = medium freshwater

50 = heavy freshwater/medium saltwater

60 = medium saltwater

70 = heavy saltwater

80 = heavy saltwater

Yeah, if you notice, Pflueger rates their reel spool capacity's odd too. They only give the lightest line capacity, as if that is the only line you can put on. I would look at it this way, 6-8lb line-8030, 10-12lb line-8035, 14-17lb line-8040. My SJR783 should really have a 8035 on it, but I only use 8lb mono on the rod, and 10-12lb braid, so it works just fine. You should go to a store and check them out in hand. Feel them, put them on a rod as close to what you have as you can get, or bring your rod in. I prefer the smaller reels myself, but I have noticed that a very high percentage of people tend to get the 35 Presidents and Supremes.

[zelmo]

So if we are using braid, should it be sized to the normal diameter?

[Masshole Mike]

check the diameter of the braid you're using. it will indicate what the diameter is in relation to mono, ie. 40# test braid has a diameter equal to 10# mono (just an example, not sure if that's accurate).

[Tokyo Tony]

So if we are using braid, should it be sized to the normal diameter?

If you use braid you don't have to go with 30 pound test just to get the diameter up to 8 lb equivalent, or whatever the equivalent would be.  You can use 10 lb braid that would have 2 or 4 lb diameter - that's what I do.  10 or 15 lb braid with my spinning reels, 10 for the light to medium rod power, and 15 lb for MH.  IMO 8 lb braid and lower is too thin - it's like spider silk.  And if you size up to 30 pound test braid or whatever it would be for 6 or 8 lb diameter, you're giving up one of the advantages of braid - longer casts.

You don't need any more than 100 yds or so of braid on your reel for freshwater - just wind on some 8 lb mono about 1/2 or 2/3 of the way then fill the rest with braid.  It's cheaper.

[zelmo]

Shimano 2500 size is like a Supreme 8032.5 if they made it.  I have an 8035 and it's a very tasty reel.

Compared to the Stradic FI, it's definitely different.  It's lighter, but the Stradic feels a little more solid to me and casts a little farther.  I would hesitate to use the Supreme in saltwater, but would not hesitate to use my Stradic in saltwater.

Hmm......I am going to be fishing the tidal Potomac this spring which can be brackish in parts.  Will that hurt the Supreme?

[5bass]

I wouldn't suggest using the Supreme in the Potomac.

[ABC123]

So if we are using braid, should it be sized to the normal diameter?

Choose the lb test braid you want to use.

Here is how I spool up braid:

I take my trusty clip on line counter and spool on 360 ft (120yds) of braid. That's just my amount, you can put on as much, or little as you want. I then take and tie on my backing mono (I use 12lb XT). I finish filling the reel. I then tie the Mono to an empty spool, and transfer the line onto an empty spool. As I am puting the Mono portion of the line onto the empty spool, I use my trust line counter to measure the mono. Now I know how much backing to use with the braid. As long as I don't forget that magic number, I should only have to do that once with each size spool. If I change line diameters, I will have to redo the process, but for the most part, the backing should be able to remain on the spool for years, only having to replace the braid as needed/desired.

Mono capacity is an old way of measuring spool capacity. Though it is still used today, it has no bearing on braid, floro, or reel strength, IMO.

[ABC123]

Shimano 2500 size is like a Supreme 8032.5 if they made it. I have an 8035 and it's a very tasty reel.

Compared to the Stradic FI, it's definitely different. It's lighter, but the Stradic feels a little more solid to me and casts a little farther. I would hesitate to use the Supreme in saltwater, but would not hesitate to use my Stradic in saltwater.

Hmm......I am going to be fishing the tidal Potomac this spring which can be brackish in parts. Will that hurt the Supreme?

I would go with a graphite framed reel then. President, Symetre, Stradic, ect... You could even use an aluminum reel, like the Medalist, if you want.

[dave]

The tidal Potomac above the 301 bridge should be OK for your reel.  If in doubt,  rinse it when done.  I fish the Potomac from around Chicamuxen Creek to the Woodrow Wilson Bridge.  If you are fishing the tidal river for bass,  no where that you fish for bass should concern you as far as your reel is concerned.

[zelmo]

I went back and looked at all of my other choices again and keep coming back to the Supreme.  Since it will be on a Kistler the light weight really appeals to me.  

I have read that other reals can bind up if they get dunked.  Any issues with the Supreme?  Will I hurt it by giving it a bath after using it in the Potomac?

[flippin4it.]

I just bought the Supreme 8035 MGX and love it. I have it matched up with a BPS Prolite Finesse 7ft med. I have yet to fish with it, but it is light in the hand and well balanced.