Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 I want to get a light Mg reel for casting lighter topwaters and maybe lighter crankbaits. I know the Chronarch is a little fast for these - but that doesn't bother me too much, I like fast reels. How is the Chronarch Mg? How does it handle light lures? Anyone have one that can comment? Quote
bocabasser Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 i have one and i love it. i throw it on a g-loomis and it is by far my lightest outfit. i have 12 pound big game on it and i throw either a 1/4 oz. jig or i throw a pop r on it. i really like how it casts the pop r and i can chuck it a mile. great reel imo but if there is a downside, there is some back play. Quote
TournyFish001 Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I have the scorpion 1001mg which is the japanese model of the US Chronarch MG- great reel casts light baits with ease. Quote
shimanogloomis man Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I have a souped up mg that i bought off someone on tackletour it has vxb abec 7 ceramic spool bearings, carbontex carbon fiber drag washer and a 85 mm zpi platinum carbon fiber handle with 2 bearings per know this reel is a dream at casting light lures i kno its not stock but there a some nice upgrades u can do to this reel if u feel like u need to ;D. I have it on my glw bcr 854 thats my jiigin machine Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 I have both the domestic Chronarch and the Metanium Scorpion Bantam MG. You would be VERY happy with either, but I would still recommend the CH50MG: http://fish.shimano.com/catalog/fish/products/group_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302036639&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181270&bmUID=1197684599370 Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 RW, that's the one I'm going to go with. I'd like to pair it up to a Crucial - CRCC66M 6'6' medium/medium-fast. Quote
d.hark Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Is the 50mg smaller than the 100 series reels? Kinda like the 100s are smaller than the 200s?? Is that how they get that chronarch that light?? Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 The Chonarch Mg is the same size as the Curado 100. I don't know what the 50 means. Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 I have 2 Chronarch MG's and love them. Don't use them much but they can cast a light lure a country mile. Quote
fishing4fun Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I have 3 chronarch mg's and I use them on my flipping and pitching sticks. It is one of my favorite reels for this application. If you are going to use it on a casting rod you will have to use lighter line as the line capacity is very low. I emailed shimano to see if they have a larger capacity spool but the answer was a big NO. Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 One of my favorite creeks is a tidal creek that has become a wee bit salty due to the drought. I expect it will remain that way until we start geting substantial or regular rain. It wouldn't call it brackish, but you can taste a little salt in it. I don't mind breaking reels down to clean them. That woudln't be the issue. I'm just wondering how Mg will do in this type of water. I'm wondering if I should stick to a tried-and-true Revo, or get a Curado 100D, or if a Chronarch Mg would be OK. (I've got enough Revos, I really want another Shimano). Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 One of my favorite creeks is a tidal creek that has become a wee bit salty due to the drought. I expect it will remain that way until we start geting substantial or regular rain. It wouldn't call it brackish, but you can taste a little salt in it. That my friend is brackish Magnesium is fine also as you don't damage the protective coating :'( Quote
Super User Alpster Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 I have 4 50 Mgs and I think they are the best reel for the $ anywhere. I don't use them in salt, so I can't help much there. They are light as a feather and strong as a horse. You won't be disappointed in a 50 Mg, I guarantee it. JMHO Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 One of my favorite creeks is a tidal creek that has become a wee bit salty due to the drought. I expect it will remain that way until we start geting substantial or regular rain. It wouldn't call it brackish, but you can taste a little salt in it. I don't mind breaking reels down to clean them. That woudln't be the issue. I'm just wondering how Mg will do in this type of water. I'm wondering if I should stick to a tried-and-true Revo, or get a Curado 100D, or if a Chronarch Mg would be OK. (I've got enough Revos, I really want another Shimano). Then it 's not for you, you see, Shimano claims the ChMg is saltwater or brackish water "safe", that it has a protective coating, yada, yada, yada, yada; well you are one scratch deep enough to break the protective coating and it will no longer be salt safe. The electrolytic reaction between salt/Mg begins immediately when in touch. Aluminum is the way to go. Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 That's what I'm afraid of, Raul. I really like the Chronarch Mg. Sweet reel and feather lite. But I really want a light reel I can use on my tidal creeks without too much worry. I think I'm going to just go with another Curado - a 100 this time. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 Then my friend if you want light and saltwater safe don 't look in the DM, look in the JDM, the Alphas 103 is taylor made for what you want at the same price of the Chronarch Mg, lighter by 1 oz than the Curado 100 and with corrosion resistant bearings which the Curado 100 doesn 't have. www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com Price includes shipping and the man who owns the place is top notch and stand-up, no BS with him. Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 But don't the Curado Ds have shielded stainless steel bearings? Curado Ds certainly are marketed, in part, to the inshore crowd. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 Shielded doesn 't mean they are CRBB or ARB it only means that they are shielded and it will take some more time before water and whatever is dissolved in it can be able to penetrate the bearing, it doesn 't matter if it 's stainless steel because stainless steel can not only stain but also rust, you ask me I work with stainless steel instruments all the time and even the most expensive and best stainless steel instruments rust a little if not dried asap, the only instruments I work with that do not rust are chrome plated. Look at it this way, if oil can penetrate and lubricate a shielded bearing water just for having even less viscosity can also penetrate the bearing. CRBB/ARB means that the alloy from which the elements of the bearing are made of are a lot more resistant to corrosion, 8-10 times more corrosion resistant, doesn 't mean they won 't corrode, it means that it will take a lot more time before they show signs of corrosion. Still, any reel fished in salt or brackish water environments has to be rinsed after use with pure freshwater, it 's a matter of basic maintenace if you want the reel to last. Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 15, 2007 Super User Posted December 15, 2007 Magnesium and Fresh Water: In stagnant distilled water at room temperature, magnesium alloys rapidly form a protective film that prevents further corrosion. Small amounts of dissolved salts (sweat) in water, particularly chlorides or heavy metal salts, will break down the protective film locally, which usually results in pitting. Dissolved oxygen plays no mayor role in the corrosion of magnesium in either freshwater or saline solutions. The corrosion of magnesium alloys by pure water increases substantially with temperature. Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 Shielded doesn 't mean they are CRBB or ARB it only means that they are shielded and it will take some more time before water and whatever is dissolved in it can be able to penetrate the bearing, it doesn 't matter if it 's stainless steel because stainless steel can not only stain but also rust Aren't Shimano's A-RB bearings "open bearings" whereas the the Curados are shielded? IIRC, shielded bearings are preferred for saltwater. According to Tackletour, shielded stainless bearings are 12 times more corrosion resistant than normal stainless bearings. According to them, Daiwa's CRBB are shield designs, not treated. And treated stainless, like in Diawas (Super CRBB) and Shimanos with A-RB bearing are 10 times more corrosion resistant than normal stainless bearings. It's all very confusing. Maybe Reelmech will chime in. Let's start a new thread on bearings. Quote
Super User Micro Posted December 15, 2007 Author Super User Posted December 15, 2007 Aren't Shimano's A-RB bearings "open bearings" whereas the the Curados are shielded? IIRC, shielded bearings are preferred for saltwater.Shimano's A-RB bearings aren't shielded they are open for easy flushing. The Curado' use a stock ABEC3 shielded stainless steel bearing. Actually sealed bearings are preferred for salt water.Tight Lines!!! Thanks. I started a new thread. maybe you can offer some more insight into this issue. Quote
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