All Star ASR rod - under $100??

[Micro]

This is the only add I've seen anywhere on the net for the new All Star ASR rod. List price around $90?? I was expecting much higher than that.

http://www.gofishin.com/?show_details=70636&desc=SHAKESPEARE_All_Star_ASR825S_ASR_Spinning_6'10%22

I'm really interested in checking this rod out when it's available.

HMMM, link not working for some reason. Here is the Google search. It's the 4th one down.

http://www.google.com/search?q=all+star+asr+rod&hl=en&start=10&sa=N

[5bass]

List price around $90?? I was expecting much higher than that.

I aint mad at 'em....

[Jake.]

The link works if you copy and paste it into the adress bar.

[carySE406]

This is absolutely great news!!  I might be able to afford 2 new setups now!!  Thanks for the link. 8-)

[cart7t]

Bobby's has them for $75.

http://bobbysfishinrods.com/page/1hhhv/Allstar_Rods.html

[5bass]

Bobby's has them for $75.

Even better!

[Micro]

I'm not complainintg, but $75?  How is that?  It's apparently their multi-modulus IM10 blank and alconite guides?  For $75?  The Team All Star IM10 with aluminum oxide guides sells for $90+.  I notice the ASR does not have the MADE IN TEXAS logo on their webpage.  Perhaps made in China?  Not saying that's bad, but otherwise the price seems very low.

[Jake.]

I'm not complainintg, but $75? How is that? It's apparently their multi-modulus IM10 blank and alconite guides? For $75? The Team All Star IM10 with aluminum oxide guides sells for $90+. I notice the ASR does not have the MADE IN TEXAS logo on their webpage. Perhaps made in China? Not saying that's bad, but otherwise the price seems very low.

I agree, it does seem pretty wierd.  :-?

[Guest muddy]

OK if it makes you guys feel bettwer and a little bit more ELITE   I will buy them, put a made in USA sticker on them, then I will sell them to you for 250.00, then all you need is a reel thats another 250.00 and that will all make you top notch Elite Bass Fisherman

[cart7t]

If you go to All Stars website they've got all their rod lines marked as Made in Houston except the Pro series, Instinct and the ASR.  I'm guessing the ASR's are made wherever the other 2 are made at.  

[dodgeguy]

OK if it makes you guys feel bettwer and a little bit more ELITE I will buy them, put a made in USA sticker on them, then I will sell them to you for 250.00, then all you need is a reel thats another 250.00 and that will all make you top notch Elite Bass Fisherman

ROFLMAO!!! ;D

[Micro]

OK if it makes you guys feel bettwer and a little bit more ELITE I will buy them, put a made in USA sticker on them, then I will sell them to you for 250.00, then all you need is a reel thats another 250.00 and that will all make you top notch Elite Bass Fisherman

So much for that "I is gunna ignir ingor ignor yer posts" stuff. :

Anyway, back to topic - it does appear to be a lower end All Star rod - at least at this time.

[Guest muddy]

YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY POSTER HERE, YOUR EGO IS INCREDIBLE, I need sun glasses 8-)

[rolltide]

I think I might match this rod with the new Pflueger Patriarch. I'm sorry if I'm going off subject, but would a 7.1:1 gear ratio reel work on the spinnerbait rod? What applications do you like to use this fast gear ratio?

[Guest muddy]

That is a sweet reel, has any one bought one yet. I use Trions, I have 3 in the 6.2:1 for everything but cranks and one 5.3:1 for cranks>Sweet. I

[Micro]

I think I might match this rod with the new Pflueger Patriarch. I'm sorry if I'm going off subject, but would a 7.1:1 gear ratio reel work on the spinnerbait rod? What applications do you like to use this fast gear ratio?

You can use a 7.1:1 ratio reel for anything - just adjust the speed of your retrieve. It would work fine as spinnerbait reel as long as you don't crank too fast. Practice with it to get the best effect. I don't have any baitcast reels with a lower than 6.4:1 retrieve. Most of my reels are 7.1:1.

But a high speed reel like that may be best for applications where cranking isn't the principal mechanism for your bait presentation, and where a quick line retrieve after your presentation is desirable. Fishing with plastics, or toads/frogs, where you principally impart action to the bait with rod motion and not the reel would be a good use for a reel that fast.

I'm interested in the ASR frog rod. I don't have a dedicated frog rod. My 7'0" MH/F carolina-rig rod does double duty for frogs. If I do buy the ASR frog rod (I have to see it first), I'll be putting a 7.1:1 reel on it.

[rolltide]

Could I still use a 7.1:1 gear ratio for using rattlebaits, jerkbaits, topwaters, shallow diving crankbaits, etc.? (baits that don't run deep and still give me wenching power when reeling in a fish)

[Micro]

Yes, you can use a 7.1:1 reel with for all those applications.  It may not be the optimal reel for those applications, but you can certainly use that reel.  You will simply have to adjust the rate of your retrieve with certain bait - like cranks.   A lot of people prefer a slower speed reel for crankbaits, with speeds of about 5:1.   But a 7:1 will work just fine as long as you compensate by cranking slower.  

You are going to have plenty of wenching power with a 7:1 reel.   Don't worry about that.

Hopefully other folks will chime in with their views on reel speeds.

[South FLA]

Here is a good article on gear ratios

http://www.bassresource.com/beginner/fishing_equipment.html

I like 6.X:1 ratios for just about everything, although I think it would be nice to have a faster ratio for frogs, waking spinnerbaits, and burning rattle traps, but have been able to do it with lower ratios.

Just was on the All Star website looking at the ASR, and I was impressed with it, in today's global marketplace I can understand why All Star is building in China.  If domestic labor cost is prohibitive and quality is the same then why not pay LESS MONEY for a good rod.  China invests much of its massive surplus in US debt, keeping long-term interest rates low anyway, so what's the difference.  

I may have found a new FROG rod since I can get high modulus graphite and Fuji Alconites for under a $100 bones  , but the new Shimano Cumara looks HOT and that Dobyns is looking mighty sweet,  decisions decisions decisions :.  

[Micro]

I don't care that they are made in China.  I've got a lot of good rods made there (Brownings, Fenwick HMGs & HMX, BPS).   I was just suprised that the price on the ASR was as low as it is.  I was expecting in the $150 range.  

[cart7t]

I don't care that they are made in China.  I've got a lot of good rods made there (Brownings, Fenwick HMGs & HMX, BPS).   I was just suprised that the price on the ASR was as low as it is.  I was expecting in the $150 range.  

I suspect if the rod was Houston made it probably would be in that price range.

What I find interesting is the rod actions that are available.  For instance,  the typical Spinnerbait rod in the IM10 (TAS series) is the 806C model.  6'8" MHvy, fast.  The ASR series shows that as a model 805,  Med/Fast.  Even their worm rod is listed as a Med action.  I wonder what gives here?  

[Micro]

I try not to pay too much attention to the techniques All Star gives their rods.  I have three 806s (6'8" MH/F), one is a TAS IM 10 and the other two are American Classics.  These are "supposed" to be spinnerbait rods.   I use them for that, among other things.  I mainly use them for heavier plastics.  I've also used them for swimbaits and occassionally frogs/toads.  It's a very versatile rod.