armesjr Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I am looking at getting a setup specifically for frog fishing. I have been looking around and i think i have decided on the Quantum Tour Edition PT Signature Series "Dean Rojas" frog rod. I was also looking at the G-Loomis Frog rod, but unless i find a good deal on this one, it is a little too pricey. For a reel i am looking for something in the 7.1:1 gear ratio, possibly a Revo SX-HS. For line, some sort of 50-65lb braid. I am open for suggestions on what others use and like. Thanks Jason Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted November 20, 2007 Super User Posted November 20, 2007 Just got into frog fishing this year and I freakin' LOVED it Earlier this year, I picked up a Dobyns 704C and paired it with a Zillion w/ 50 lb Sufix braid. Great combo for frogs as well as jigs, t-rigs, c-rigs, etc. The Revo would be a good choice as well. I have 2 STX's on other rods, and I only got the Zillion since I wanted to try something new. Quote
mike bat Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 i been froggin for the past couple years i too love the frog game ..... i started with the g-loomis frog rod ,,, it wasnt a bad stick .... well untill i picked up a lagened tourney bass ( frogg rod ) .... the ltb frog rod is crisp and lite .... so much faster than the loomis ,,, the loomis is like tryin to swing a log when setting hooks ..... the croix is so fast and easy to set the hook with ..... if you check out reeds sports on line they have the legened tourney bass frog rod on sale .... look in the rods section you can see the stick there ..... i also use a daiwa zillion spooled with 50lb power pro ..... altho i may try suffics braid this season ,,, jurys still out .... Quote
armesjr Posted November 20, 2007 Author Posted November 20, 2007 I just checked reeds online, and it appears the frog rod is no longer on sale. Also what gear ratio are yalls zillions. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 20, 2007 Super User Posted November 20, 2007 Don't get in a hurry, rumor has it that Reed's may be getting another allotment to sell. BUT, if you see what you want, DON'T wait around! Quote
Olebiker Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Unless you have money to burn, don't waste money on an expensive rod to fish a frog. It's not like you need something sensitive to detect a strike. I use a flipping stick with an old Ambassadeur 5000C spooled with 40# PowerPro. Quote
armesjr Posted November 20, 2007 Author Posted November 20, 2007 Thanks for the info RW. I am in no big hurry, i figure i will be able to find a good deal around the holiday season. Quote
mike bat Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I just checked reeds online, and it appears the frog rod is no longer on sale. Also what gear ratio are yalls zillions. 7.1:1 is the speed of the zillion i use ... it is the one with the red spool ....i like a fast reel to get the bass up and outta that slop before they burry up .... also i believe if you really fish frogs a frog rod is a must ..... if you toss a frog a few times a year then you could use any heavy stick i geuss ..... i can tell you we have so many lakes here in wisconsin that are over come with weeds the olny way to fish is with a frog or punching matted vegges with a flipping stick ..... however to use a flipping stick to fish frogs is silly .... with a flipping stick you will miss fish .... that was my gripe with the loomis frog rod it was 7ft3 heavy and was like swinging a log when tryin to set the hook ... the croix is 7ft heavy however its a easyer rod to move when you have to send that hook home .... since i switched to the croix my hook up ratio whent through the roof ... my brother in law is a loomis man and after seeing me bust those bass with a spro ,, he to wants a croix ltb frog rod ..... this may be the best stick in the ltb line up ..... Quote
Olebiker Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 however to use a flipping stick to fish frogs is silly .... with a flipping stick you will miss fish .... Why would you miss fish with a flipping stick? Quote
Ben Lipiec Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I too use like the 7:1 Zillion reel. It is one of the best all around reels you can use. I'm really getting to like the 7:1 Gear ratio for many techniques. Not deep cranks or spinnerbaits though. For frogs, I think the Kistler frog and slop special is the best rod i have used. It is very light and it has more than enough backbone. I can skip and cast the frog way up under trees and into laydowns with incredible accuracy. All the rods mentioned have been good sticks. You have to find the one that fits your style. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 20, 2007 Super User Posted November 20, 2007 I have been using a Daiwa Zillion High Speed and a G. Loomis MBR844C. It has worked out great for frogs this year. The reel has a ton of power and the rod is sensitive and powerfull enough to pull some big ones out of heavy cover. Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted November 20, 2007 Super User Posted November 20, 2007 Since I use my setup for jigs, T-rigs, C-rigs, frogs and small swimbaits, I use the 6:1 Zillion. If I wasn't throwing the swimbaits, I'd have gone with the 7.1. However, keep in mind the 28 IPT from the Zillion is just as fast as some other companies' 7:1 'burner' reels. Quote
Charger169 Posted November 26, 2007 Posted November 26, 2007 The only reason I can see that you could loose fish by using a flippin stick is because of over reacting to the bite. Frog fishing does require a bit of restraint before setting the hook. Since a flippin stick is usually H action and 7'6" you could yank the frog out of their mouths. That why specific FROG rods, though may be H or MH have a x_fast tip just so this won't happen. Quote
Olebiker Posted November 26, 2007 Posted November 26, 2007 The only reason I can see that you could loose fish by using a flippin stick is because of over reacting to the bite. Frog fishing does require a bit of restraint before setting the hook. Since a flippin stick is usually H action and 7'6" you could yank the frog out of their mouths. That why specific FROG rods, though may be H or MH have a x_fast tip just so this won't happen. Most of my frog fishing is done in lily pads or on top of hydrilla so I need the extra backbone of a flipping stick. I have been really surprised at how good my hook-up rate is with Zoom Horny Toads. Quote
Super User Micro Posted November 27, 2007 Super User Posted November 27, 2007 Unless you have money to burn, don't waste money on an expensive rod to fish a frog. It's not like you need something sensitive to detect a strike. I use a flipping stick with an old Ambassadeur 5000C spooled with 40# PowerPro. I've started using a flippin' rod, too. I've been using a 7'6" All Star heavy/extra-fast with an Abu Garcia EXT Pro reel and 30# Stren Super Braid. I just started using it at the tail end of summer so didn't get a lot of action with it, but I'm confident it will work well. And give me the back-bone to move fish out of the weeds and pads. Quote
armesjr Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 I think i have decided on the Kistler Magnesium Jig n' Toad Special 7' Heavy fishing rod with either a Zillion or a Revo SX-HS with some sort of braid. I was looking at Kistlers forum, and people seem to like this rod. Has anyone on this forum used it? Quote
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