bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Today while out on the water fishing with my Abu Garcia Revo S, I noticed that my casting went from far to about half that. I opened up the side plate and noticed that two brake pins and worked their way to the "on" position (all brake pins were pressed down to begin with). They were not across from each other either, one brake pin between the two. I pushed them back down and made my next cast only to see it go half the distance I'd been casting at all day as well. I opened it back up and the same two pins had worked their way into the on position again. This happened three or four times before I got fed up and retired the combo for the day. Any ideas as to what was going on?
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 The problem is >>>>It's not a SHIMANO.......Sorry but I couldn't resist.
bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Author Posted November 12, 2007 My conclusion was close to yours...mine was it's not a Daiwa...I should've known better than to go out on a dead limb and try something new...now I'm stuck with this piece of junk :'(
Super User cart7t Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 How much do you want for that piece of junk?
Super User 5bass Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 The problem is >>>>It's not a SHIMANO.......Sorry but I couldn't resist. Thats funny. So Shimano never has any problems with their reels? I doubt it. My conclusion was close to yours...mine was it's not a Daiwa...I should've known better than to go out on a dead limb and try something new...now I'm stuck with this piece of junk :'( I wouldnt throw a blanket across all Revo S models and say they are junk. ALL reel companies have problems, you were just unlucky and got a bad one. But maybe it's not bad and it can be fixed rather easily. Maybe Reel Mech will see this thread and shed some light on whats happening.
Super User cart7t Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I seem to recall a certain moderator around here that got 2 Shimano's bad right out of the box. To make matters worse, Shimano wanted him to spend his money to send their broken new reels back to them so they could fix them.
Super User grimlin Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I'd like to see somebody's professional opinion on what happened...i never heard of the brake pins moving on somebody before.You got me curious now....
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 If u aint usin um take um out ;D
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I seem to see more problem with the new ABU's on here. Regardless which model they are. My spool spread. I traded it for the Premier. It ok but it aint my Shimano. Wish I could trade it ...
Super User cart7t Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I seem to see more problem with the new ABU's on here. Links please. Regardless which model they are. My spool spread. I traded it for the Premier. It ok but it aint my Shimano. Wish I could trade it ... I believe your spool spreading was determined to be caused by the person incorrectly spooling your reel with new line on the spooling machine vs. the actual reel itself.
Super User Micro Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I'd like to see somebody's professional opinion on what happened...i never heard of the brake pins moving on somebody before.You got me curious now.... Neither have I. I even tried to Google it up and came up with nothing. Just curious, when you push the weights down, do they snap into place?
bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Author Posted November 12, 2007 Not wanting this to heat up guys...sorry. Yes the pins click into place just like the rest of them but seem to work their way out midway on the first cast. I had never heard of it either and was sure somebody here could help. Cart 7 if you're interested in it pm me.
Super User Micro Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 How long have you had it? I know you stated you were stuck with it, but are you really? Revos haven't been out that long. It may still be under warranty by Abu. If you don't want it, you could still return it to them for repair and then sell it as used but in good working order - you'll get more money. Otherwise, I'd try taking it back to the store. I've taken stuff back to stores, particularly Bass Pro Shops, well after I was supposed to be able to return it. Most store are particulary good about that if you take it back for store credit, or exhange it for something else. Worth a try. Sorry you hate it. I have 5 Revos (all mag brake) and haven't had a lick of trouble.
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 The_Conceited_Redneck had a good point. you mentioned that you werent using any brakes at all. well if you arent using them, then take them out! my only thought would be that either the brake weight or the pin that it is on or both are somehow deformed. you should take those two brake weights off and inspect them closely for differences. and do the same for the pins. maybe the hole on those brake weights are slightly too big for the pin so they slide up. did your reel come with replacement brake weights? if it did just swap out all the brake weights and try again.
Super User Micro Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 The_Conceited_Redneck had a good point. you mentioned that you werent using any brakes at all. well if you arent using them, then take them out! my only thought would be that either the brake weight or the pin that it is on or both are somehow deformed. you should take those two brake weights off and inspect them closely for differences. and do the same for the pins. maybe the hole on those brake weights are slightly too big for the pin so they slide up. did your reel come with replacement brake weights? if it did just swap out all the brake weights and try again. Great idea. I never thought of that. All my Abus that do have centrifugal brakes came with spare brakes.
Super User .RM. Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 bmadd, I opened up the side plate and noticed that two brake pins and worked their way to the "on" position (all brake pins were pressed down to begin with).I have a Revo S-L, if the brake blocks aren't snapping (making a snap sound) to hold them in the off position, then you check the brake pins for the ridges they are supposed to have, that hold the blocks in the off position. If the pins are worn down that part can be replaced, or if a new reel replace it!...
bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Author Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks everyone...I just opened the reel to inspect everything more closely and it appears the ridges have worn down. They make a slight clicking sound when pushing them to the off position but slide up to the on position very easily. ReelMechanic- how does this happen? Thanks, Braden
Super User Raul Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks everyone...I just opened the reel to inspect everything more closely and it appears the ridges have worn down. They make a slight clicking sound when pushing them to the off position but slide up to the on position very easily. ReelMechanic- how does this happen?Thanks, Braden Bad quality in the materials. There 's no reason other than that one, you can expect a certain ammount of wear from anything which is normal under normal use, shock absorbers in cars last X ammount of miles, same can be said about brake pads, tires, etc, even a lightbulb has a lifespan of X ammount of hours. But taking in consideration that the reel is new to the market hearing that the ridges wear out un such short period of time it shure makes you think about the quality and/or durability of the rest of the components of the reel. It 's not like if you are changing the brake settings every 5 min 24/7.
bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Author Posted November 12, 2007 I guess you're right Raul. I opened up my little brother's Bass Pro Extreme (old style) and even it has metal brake pins instead of black plastic like the Abu. I'm stayin with Daiwa from now on...
Super User Raul Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 What I would do if I were you would be to send back the reel for repair, it must still have warranty, once repaired then I would most probably sell it and then use the money to get me something else.
Super User .RM. Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 I have to agree with Raul here, it will make you wonder especially if the reel is new. Although that part of the spool assembly is replaceable and does have it's own part number. If the reel is used then I would find out how much use the reel has had and then I would judge the parts ability to stand up.
bmadd Posted November 12, 2007 Author Posted November 12, 2007 I bought the reel at the beginning of May. It's been fished probably 10-12 weekends. I imagine I'll be contacting Abu Garcia tomorrow.
Super User Micro Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 Bad quality in the materials. I'm curious as to why suddenly Abu is using bad quality materials. Abu has been making centrifugal brakes for as long as I can remember. I've never had a problem with my Abu reels with centrifugal brakes. I also tried Googling up the problem described and I can't find a similar complaint anywhere.
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 i figured one of the pins was deformed. thats good that you've located the problem. i would send it back, get a new one, and if the new one sucks too, then send it back and get a different reel. ive got an old ambassaduer 5500C and it only has two brake weights...i thought that was weird. i've never seen a ree with only two weights
Super User Raul Posted November 12, 2007 Super User Posted November 12, 2007 Beginning when or why is a question where your guess is as good as mine, I don 't own nor are associated in any form with the company, what is obvious is that they are using lesser quality in the materials, the kind of wear that 's being described it 's an indication of: 1.- bad materials 2.- lack of quality control It is simply absurd that a reel purchased in May is exhibiting problems of wear 5 MONTHS LATER. It simply should not happen. Abu: " LOOOOOOOOK, here 's our newest & meanest low profile baitcaster !!!!!!, purchase it while you can" 5 months later Abu: " OOOOOOOPPPPPPPS. sorry guyz ! we forgot to tell you that the centrifugal brake in you reel is going to wear in 5 months or 10-12 weekends, whatever happens first" C 'mon ! :
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