2-piece MH/H casting rod?

[bpm2000]

Who makes them?  The only decent ones I can find are St. Croix premier series (PC66MHF2 and PC70HF2).  I'd like to keep it in that pricerange too so no JDM stuff (and their 2pc all seem to be at the handle).

thx

[Raul]

Not all JDM rods are obscenely expensive, the Major Craft Slicer series ( straight and split handle ) cost around 120 + 15 dollars shipping by EMS. And no, they are not 2 pc at the handle, actually, very few are two piece at the handle.

[bpm2000]

realllly... what kind of components do they use?

thx

sweet new avatar btw  ;D

[Raul]

realllly... what kind of components do they use?

thx

sweet new avatar btw ;D

[bpm2000]

Is there some other place to order these to the US or is plat the way to go?  If I'm reading it right, they want 8600 yen to ship a 6ft6in rod.. isnt that like 70 bucks???

2 pc cheaper to ship?

[Raul]

Is there some other place to order these to the US or is plat the way to go? If I'm reading it right, they want 8600 yen to ship a 6ft6in rod.. isnt that like 70 bucks???

2 pc cheaper to ship?

Nope, nobody in the US carries them for what I know, Plat carries them.

8,600 yens for a 1 piece rod by FEDEX or UPS

2 piece rods are shipped by EMS ( Japanese post service ), around 15-20 dollars.

[Lucky Craft Man]

If you are looking for a great 2-piece rod at a reasonbile price, I would highly recommend Cabelas XML rods.  I have a whole line up of these rods and use them as my "travel" rods (2 piece are so much easier to transport then a 1 piece).  I have been very pleased with these rods and Cabelas warranty is unmatched (when I broke one, I just brought it in and they told me to go get a new one.  No questions asked).  Also, if you are interested in these rods, look for a sale (last year they were on sale for $99 on-line), or a combo (They had an in-store sale last year where you could get a Shimano Curado with a Cableas XML rod for $239, which is like getting the rod for $39).

[bpm2000]

Thx for the XML suggestion - they sound like nice rods.  I wasn't aware that Cabelas had rods like that as well (always look on basspro myself).

Raul you were right, I got a quote to around $130 shipped, so both rods are about the same price (the slicer is actually cheaper since that is the shipped price...).

Decisions decisions...  not like I have the money right now anyways  ;D

Now I just have to convince the GF this should be my christmas present...

[Raul]

Got a friend that has the Slicer, he says that compared to a GLoomis GL2 or St Croix Premier .... hands down on the Slicer, and that a Premier or a GL2 will never look half as good as the Slicer does. This comes from a guy that has a "few" Japanese rods ( like a 600 dollars Presso rod, several Megabass and several Evergreens n 'such ). He also says that the rod with his magnesium reels feels a little tip heavy but that with a regular over 7.5 ounces reel it balances neutral ( same thing I was able to tell when I paired my Mg reels with the Kistler Mag TS ---> slighly tip heavy ).

That 's what he told me in the e-mail he sent me ( got if you want to see it, but it 's in Spanish ).

[islandbass]

Got a friend that has the Slicer, he says that compared to a GLoomis GL2 or St Croix Premier .... hands down on the Slicer, and that a Premier or a GL2 will never look half as good as the Slicer does. This comes from a guy that has a "few" Japanese rods ( like a 600 dollars Presso rod, several Megabass and several Evergreens n 'such ). He also says that the rod with his magnesium reels feels a little tip heavy but that with a regular over 7.5 ounces reel it balances neutral ( same thing I was able to tell when I paired my Mg reels with the Kistler Mag TS ---> slighly tip heavy ).

That 's what he told me in the e-mail he sent me ( got if you want to see it, but it 's in Spanish ).

Raul,

BPM lives in my neck of the woods. I'd be more than happy to translate.  

BPM,  you might want to see of the Sportsmans in Fed Way has those St. Croix deals. I bought a 2 piece compre from there for $54.95 and they are regularly $89.  As you know, Shimano stuff is hardly ever on sale.

[bpm2000]

wouldnt mind seeing that email actually, i think in one way or another ill manage.  I'll send it off to islandbass if I cant figure it out  ;D

Island - I wasn't aware that the Compre came in a 2pc...

EDIT:  well it does in one model but its only Medium.. I need something a bit heavier!

[islandbass]

wouldnt mind seeing that email actually, i think in one way or another ill manage. I'll send it off to islandbass if I cant figure it out ;D

Island - I wasn't aware that the Compre came in a 2pc...

EDIT: well it does in one model but its only Medium.. I need something a bit heavier!

BPM,  I think you're right! I made a mistake. They have a 2-piece mh which I have but it is a spinning rod. Sorry!  I would gladly translate the message.

[Raul]

Ok, here is the e-mail including the colorful remarks in Spanish, actually he 's discussing about a UL spinning rod, but I don 't think there would be that much of a difference, my GL2s spinning and baitcasting behave and feel pretty much the same with the obvious difference the power rating would make between a L a M and a MH.

Que paso Tocayo?

como andas?

Fijate que todavia tengo mi Slicer UL (spinning) y no pienso reemplazarla en el corto plazo. La uso para mojarrear. Sabes por que decidi quedarmela? Simplemente porque se lleva a las St. Croix Premier y a las GL2 en casi todo. Siempre he tenido la idea que el grafito SCII es mas sensible que el GL2, por eso reemplace una GL2 por una Premier para las mojarras. Pero la Slicer es mas sensible y se ve mucho mas chingona que las dos arriba mencionadas. Mi St. Croix Premier mojarrera la vendi desde hace un buen, y es que cuando agarre mis primeras mojarras con la Slicer me sacaba de onda el "strike", pues parecia una lobina de las gordas y luego veia que era una miniatura de agallas azules. Muy chingona esa caña. A decir verdad la siento un poco pesada de la punta, y tengo que ponerle un carrete de los pesados para que se balancee bien. Esa es mi unica objecion, pero por el precio, no encuentras algo mejor. Guias Fuji, asiento del carrete Fuji, blank pintado de azul, puta, que mas puede uno pedir por 1000 varitos? Yo uso de 2 piezas. La verdad que con las uniones "spigot" no veo razon para que yo siga comprando de 1 pieza. Eso de que las de 2 piezas son menos sensibles y no se que mas madres, ya es un pinche mito que lo mantienen vivo los cabrones que todavia usan sus cañas con uniones de aluminio de la decada de los 80's.

Yo si recomiendo la Slicer para "iniciarse" en la onda del equipo japones. No va a decepcionar a tu cuate. Casi todas las Major Craft estan en version de 1 o 2 piezas. Pero adviertele bien como esta el pedo...al rato si vende su casa por andar comprando cañas que no nos culpe.

Cuidese tocayo!

Raul

Tecnical languaje:

Spigot = male-female connection, he means this:

Got a friend that 's hot for a Japanese rod but doesn 't have a lot of money to spend, we looked at the Slicer but without a review from someone who owns one it was difficult to choice, reason why I e-mailed my tocayo. Well, after reading the mail my buddy is ready to jump from the cliff.  ;D

[bpm2000]

haha i think i got the gist of it with various translators and my very limited vocab from high school long ago.  Im glad he spoke about the graphite/blank construction!  Plus I am just really kind wanting to get a JDM rod for the finish/appeal.  

Any chance he has used the Olympic/Graphiteleader Bosco?  

[T-rig]

Like raul's friend mentioned, 2 piece rods beeing less sensitive is a myth, especially JDM rods.

A friend of mine has a Tailwalk and he's very happy with it. These rods don't cost an arm an a leg:

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_80_427_429&products_id=1943

K's Labo also has some nice looking 2 piece rods:

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_80_432_436&products_id=1992

[bpm2000]

Hey Trig, yea I never bought that deal about them being less sensitive.  Ive used 2pc rods my whole life and I do just fine  

The K's Labo rods don't go heavy enough, and the Tailwalk is a little on the expensive side...  thx for the suggestions though!

[islandbass]

BPM,

Here it is. Not everything translates clearly so I tried to paraphrase where I could. I might have made a mistake here or there (Imagine that, spanish as a second language! :) but the gist is there for the most part. The format I chose is a translation line by line. First line Spanish, second line English translation of the text above.

Thanks to Raul for passing on a great review.

Ok, here is the e-mail including the colorful remarks in Spanish, actually he 's discussing about a UL spinning rod, but I don 't think there would be that much of a difference, my GL2s spinning and baitcasting behave and feel pretty much the same with the obvious difference the power rating would make between a L a M and a MH.

Que paso Tocayo?

What happened (kind of like, what's going on? What's up?), Raul?

como andas?

How are you?

Fijate que todavia tengo mi Slicer UL (spinning) y no pienso reemplazarla

Look at yet what I have, my Slicer UL (spinning) and I don't think (I can) replace it

en el corto plazo. La uso para mojarrear. Sabes por que decidi quedarmela? Simplemente

in the short time. I use it for (mojarrear no real English equivalent slang, perhaps or local verbage to fish for a species called majarra?) Do you know why I decided to keep it? Simply

porque se lleva a las St. Croix Premier y a las GL2 en casi todo. Siempre he tenido la idea que

because it's going (in a way he's saying it is somewhat akin to) with the St. Croix Premier and the GL2 in almost everything. Always I have had the idea that

el grafito SCII es mas sensible que el GL2, por eso reemplace una GL2 por una Premier para las mojarras.

the SCII graphite is more sensible (We say sensitive and not sensible in English) than the GL2, for that I am replac(ing) a GL2 for one (a) Premier for the mojarras (I think this is a type of fish).

Pero la Slicer es mas sensible y se ve mucho mas chingona que las dos arriba mencionadas.

But the Slicer is more sensible (sensitive) and much more awesome (no real translation for chingona I'm substituting the word awesome. It is along the lines of cool, great, sweet, etc.) than the other two I mentioned above.

Mi St. Croix Premier mojarrera la vendi desde hace un buen, y es que cuando

I sold My St. Croix Premier rod for the mojarra a long time ago, and it is when

agarre mis primeras mojarras con la Slicer me sacaba de onda el "strike", pues parecia una

I got my first mojarras (fish) with the Slicer I thought that the mojarra looked (the strike felt) like a

lobina de las gordas y luego veia que era una miniatura de agallas azules. Muy chingona esa caña

fat bass and then I saw that it was a miniature blue gill (I think, it's blue gill but whatever it is, it was a small fish). (Basically, he felt like he had hooked into a hawg bass) Very awesome that rod.

A decir verdad la siento un poco pesada de la punta, y tengo que ponerle un carrete de los pesados

To tell the truth, I feel it's a little tip heavy and I have to put a heavier reel

para que se balancee bien. Esa es mi unica objecion, pero por el precio, no encuentras algo mejor.

in order to balance it well. That is my only objection (we'd probably say peeve vs. objection), but for the price, I don't find something (we would say anything) better.

Guias Fuji, asiento del carrete Fuji, blank pintado de azul, puta, que mas puede uno pedir por 1000 varitos?

Fuji guides, Fuji reel seat, blue colored blank, what more can one ask for (about $100)? (paraphrasing)

Yo uso de 2 piezas. La verdad que con las uniones "spigot" no veo razon para que yo siga comprando de 1 pieza

I use (have) the 2-piece. The truth that with the ferrule (joint/spigot) I don't see any reason that I continue buying a 1 piece (rod).

Eso de que las de 2 piezas son menos sensibles y no se que mas madres, ya es un pinche mito

(they say) that the 2 piece (rods) are less sensitive and I don't know (what's up with that) but it's a frickin' myth

que lo mantienen vivo los cabrones que todavia usan sus cañas con uniones de aluminio de la decada de los 80's.

from the past when rods were joined with an aluminum ferrule back in the 80s.

Yo si recomiendo la Slicer para "iniciarse" en la onda del equipo japones.

I (yes) recommend the Slicer as a (to initiate oneself) starter rod to initiate oneself with Japanese gear (islandbass translation for Japanese Gear: The DARK SIDE).

No va a decepcionar a tu cuate. Casi todas las Major Craft estan en version de 1 o 2 piezas.

It is not going to fool (deceive) your buddy. Almost all the Major Craft (rods) are either 1 or 2 pieces.

Pero adviertele bien como esta el pedo...al rato si vende su casa por andar comprando cañas que no nos culpe. Cuidese tocayo!

But to advertise it well as such is a fart. Later if you sell your house to buy rods, that is not our fault. Take care buddy!

Raul

Tecnical languaje:

Spigot = male-female connection, he means this:

Got a friend that 's hot for a Japanese rod but doesn 't have a lot of money to spend, we looked at the Slicer but without a review from someone who owns one it was difficult to choice, reason why I e-mailed my tocayo. Well, after reading the mail my buddy is ready to jump from the cliff.

[bpm2000]

thx a ton island!

[Raul]

Mojarrear = pan fishing

In Spanish, specifically Mexican Spanish the term "mojarra" is applied to any panfish fresh or saltwater that looks like a bluegill or crappie. Crappies, bluegills, tilapias and even some saltwater species with the same or similar body shape are called mojarra generically speaking. It doesn 't describe any species in particular, it only describes that kind of fish which gives you an idea of the shape and size. ( even though a 6 pound Tilapia is anything but small, I 've caught some of them in the 4-6 pound range, but the norm is between 1-2 pounds ).

[islandbass]

Thanks, Raul! That one had me stumped.