skeeterman24 Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 This year I have switched to P-Line Flourocarbon and I have been breaking off more on hooksets than i remember in the past. I used the KVD silicon spray on the line when i put it on the reels too. I have been tying a polumer knot and making sure i wet the line before pulling it tight. I set the hook pretty hard and I can't really figure out why I have been breaking. Could it be because Florocarbon has less stretch? Sometimes it seems to break without to much effort though. Anyone else have this problem or any advice? Thanks Quote
Davis Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Thats interesting seeing is how I'm looking into some P-line FluoroClear. Are your knots being tied tight on the top of the eye or are they on sideways? Asking that because the only time I have breakoffs is when my knot is not secured correctly on the eye of the hook. I too use a Palomor knot all the time. But I use circle hooks most of the time so I don't have any wild hooksets. Also why do you need the silicon spray when putting it on the reel? I never heard of that before. But this is also my first year back in fishing since I was 16. (now 27) Quote
skeeterman24 Posted August 15, 2007 Author Posted August 15, 2007 top of the eye and the silicon spray removed the chalk like dust from the line and removes some of the memory from the line. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted August 15, 2007 Super User Posted August 15, 2007 switch to a good flouro like seguar invizx. Quote
Super User David P Posted August 15, 2007 Super User Posted August 15, 2007 If you want Pline, go to Pline CX or Pline CXX, fluoroclear is GARBAGE. Fluoroclear snaps like a twig, regularly, just in the middle from small abrasions. Pline CX is good, CXX is a bit too stiff for me. Seguar Invizx is good if you want Fluorocarbon. Quote
skeeterman24 Posted August 15, 2007 Author Posted August 15, 2007 Is Flouroclear the 100% florocarbon line? I've been using the 100% and I thought that was better than CX? Quote
Davis Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 If you want Pline, go to Pline CX or Pline CXX, fluoroclear is GARBAGE. Fluoroclear snaps like a twig, regularly, just in the middle from small abrasions. Pline CX is good, CXX is a bit too stiff for me. Seguar Invizx is good if you want Fluorocarbon. Thanks for the tip. Glad that I came on here to search for opinions before I load up for next year. Quote
justfishin Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Load up for next year? Its only August. The good fishing won't start again until late October up through January. Don't put that stuff away during the best time of the year for big fish namely December. Quote
ABC123 Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Is Flouroclear the 100% florocarbon line? I've been using the 100% and I thought that was better than CX? It's a florocarbon coated mono. Quote
Davis Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Load up for next year? Its only August. The good fishing won't start again until late October up through January. Don't put that stuff away during the best time of the year for big fish namely December. Being about 30 miles south of Buffalo..........bass fishing is not possible during the winter months. I still have some time left but this is when time gets busy for me with my little guy going back to school again in a couple weeks. Not into the ice fishing thing. Quote
skeeterman24 Posted August 16, 2007 Author Posted August 16, 2007 I tried that last year and I wasn't a big fan. Now I have the P-Line 100% Flourocarbon and it doesn't seem to be much better. Alot of people seem to like the Yo-Zuri Hybrid line so i might give that a shot. Quote
Bass Hammer Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 As far as true fluoro goes I've been the most satisfied with InvizX or Triplefish. Quote
Taliesin Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 I'm not the most informed person on flouro, but it sounds like you are haveing the same problem a lot of people have with braid. Because there is no stretch, you don't need to "cross their eyes" with the hookset. A mono line hookset is meant for that stretch. You might think about loosening your drag some too. If the line is snapping, your drag is too tight. Set your drag to 1/4 of the line's highest strength (or 1/4 of your rod/reel rating if that is lower). Quote
Bass Hammer Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 More than likely it's from a bad knot, nicks and abrasions, or old kinks from backlashes. Quote
The_Natural Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 You have to tie an improved clinch with fluoro. In Tackle Tours fluorocarbon shootout, the improved clinch tests out 8-10% higher in knot strength versus the palomar. I use the palomar for mono/copoly though...it's my favorite knot. The improved clinch takes quite a bit longer to tie, but with fluoro you just need to bite the bullet. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted August 19, 2007 Super User Posted August 19, 2007 You have to tie an improved clinch with fluoro. In Tackle Tours fluorocarbon shootout, the improved clinch tests out 8-10% higher in knot strength versus the palomar. I use the palomar for mono/copoly though...it's my favorite knot. The improved clinch takes quite a bit longer to tie, but with fluoro you just need to bite the bullet. that depends who ties it.i tie a palomar with seguar invizx and cinch it down in my mouth so it is real wet.i have not had a single knot failure using this combo. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted August 19, 2007 Super User Posted August 19, 2007 Sounds like a job for superBIGgame ....Trilene BIG game has never failed me when i use this line my line is the last thing on my mind Quote
powerman970 Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 I too have fallen victim to the P-Line. I switched to the CX after reading rave reviews. I went to BPS and loaded up on the stuff then promptly changed 16 reels over to this new wonderful line. I have lost numerous fish due to what I believed at first to be line breakage before I realized that the line was not breaking, the knot was slipping. Problem is, the knot seems to have plenty of strength when it is tied but slips on a hard hookset. I switched to a knot such as you would use for braided line and it seems to have helped but I am still not crazy about the line. Stren will be happy to know I will be sending them my business back in the future. I have learned the hard way "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Quote
Davis Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 You have to tie an improved clinch with fluoro. In Tackle Tours fluorocarbon shootout, the improved clinch tests out 8-10% higher in knot strength versus the palomar. I use the palomar for mono/copoly though...it's my favorite knot. The improved clinch takes quite a bit longer to tie, but with fluoro you just need to bite the bullet. that depends who ties it.i tie a palomar with seguar invizx and cinch it down in my mouth so it is real wet.i have not had a single knot failure using this combo. I do the same with the Vanish 4lb and have never had any problems at all. I tie a palomar for most everything. Quote
lubina Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Vanish is the only line that gave me trouble with every knot I tied with. Quote
Davis Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Vanish is the only line that gave me trouble with every knot I tied with. Maybe I have been really lucky then. Because I am not a professional knot man lol. Thats a reason why I'm switching to Seguar because eventually I probably will have a failed knot and I don't want the big one on when that happens. (on my trout rod/reel anyway) Quote
skeeterman24 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Green or clear for the hybrid? I fish mostly clear/stained water. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted August 20, 2007 Super User Posted August 20, 2007 i for the life of me can't understand why some flouro is colored.doesn't that ruin the whole light refraction thing?all i know is i can't see clear flouro when it enters the water.no line is completey invisible either.i would think in clear water the green tint wouldn't help.but then again what do i know? ;D Quote
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