OK RW, here goes, Pure flouro, why use it?

[justfishin]

OK, we did the braid thing so I might as well get it out of my system. Here goes. I still use only copoly without any hassles. I do use a blend in #6 test of Yozuri Soft that I like. I have tried pure flouro and in my opinion it's too stiff, it gets brittle, and although I think the abrasion is good so is XT. Rough it up or get a kink in it and it stands out like a sore thumb. It is completly useless on spinning gear, other than maybe big reels like a Shimano 4000. It sinks so, buzzbaits and most topwaters are a waste on it. So, whats the point. My green line does fine. Ok, I am going to tuck and roll again, see ya !!!!

[Davis]

So your saying that you use the 6# Soft Hybrid mostly than?

[justfishin]

I am a winter smallie kind of guy fishing water temps in the 38-42 degree mark. I would not use YS in the cold weather although I have not tried it enough to really make that statement but, say, with water temps in the thirties I don't think I would trust it as much. RW could tell you more about its properties in cold water. I do like it in open water and deep water situations. I am going to give myself away and probably get laughed at but, for smallies in the rivers I fish its mostly if not all, BPS Excel line in #8 test---Green. 1500 yards for ten bucks and I change my line often. Its not the best line out there but, it works so well for me, its what I use. Its a great winter line. It does tend to be stretchy so a hard hook set on a long cast is needed plus the stretch is a good thing in the winter. I have lost very, very few big smallies on this line. I consider the YS #6 a finesse application line. It is good stuff and at least for summer it performs well. Very abrasion resistant I might add and I have never broken off a fish with it. We are not talking little smallies either nor slow open water but, fast water, rocky areas, is where I am at 99% of the time.

[Lucky Craft Man]

I use pure fluoro on 2 rods only, my crankbait rod and my jerkbait rod.  There is only one reason I use the pure fluoro on these two rods as opposed to mono or hybrid and that is because it sinks.  Here a quick story, my buddy and I were fishing the exact same jerkbait over a submerged weed flat.  I was catching twice, maybe three times as many fish as he was.  Also every time I would bring my lure back, there would be a trace of weeds on it and he would never get into the weeds.  He quickly switched to a reel with fluoro on it and was catching as many fish as I was.  The moral of the story, that extra foot or two that a sinking line like fluoro gives you with jerkbaits and crankbaits can be invaluable.  I hope that answers your question as to why someone would use fluoro..

[roadwarrior]

Alright, first of all, the Yo-Zuri Ultra Soft is EXACTLY the same in cold weather. So, if you like it now, you'll like it then.

Regarding pure fluorocarbon line. I WANT to use it...BUT...I have not found a line I can fish, especially on spinning tackle. Yo-Zuri Hybrid (original formula) is VERY close to the refraction index of water, but it is NOT a pure fluoro. I think it is the best "alternative'" and have gone back to using it on two of my baitcasters (#12) and one spinning outfit (#4). Otherwise, I'm still

Mr. YZ Ultra Soft.

[Infidel.]

I use florocarbon on two rods.  My t-rig rod and my Shakey/senko rod.  That's it.  I for one like the fact that the scuffs stick out like a sore thumb.  That way I can cut and retie when I need to.  If I am fishing a softer mono, it could be scuffed and I wouldn't even know it until it's too late.  Floro will never be as versital as mono.  On my "all purpose" rods that that I take shore beating, I only fish mono because I like to be able to go from a spook to a T-rig if I need to.  But if I am on a boat and have four or five rods with me, at least one will have florocarbon on it.

[michbass]

My only experience with Flourocarban so far really has been river drifting tubes and a little drop shotting. I like Yozuri but havent tried it for drifting. Any opinions on it? What kind of pound, use 10 p-line for drifting now. Everyone I talk to on St.Clair that is drifting seems to use Flouro but I don't see where a copoly would hinder you? Also I am thinking the Yozuri will not sink as fast?  Is that right?

[justfishin]

OK, RW. If its as good in those snowing sideways, ice at the ramp and snot running down my chin days as it has been in the warm weather, I will restring all my spinning rods with it. If it breaks on me I am sending a bear to your door!!! ;D

[FishTank]

I have been experimenting with Flourocarbon for two years now and I have found that, for me at least, it works best for jigs and weightless plastic. This experiment of course is on going, so take it for what you will.

The two lines that I have tried so far that have worked well are Gamma and believe or not, Berkley's new Trilene Fluorocarbon. The thing I noticed with these lines is that I get more strikes from bigger fish. The knot strength is excellent with both, the stretch is better with Trilene Fluorocarbon, the Gamma cast better on a baitcaster but not on a spinning reel, and the Trilene Fluorocarbon works OK on spinning reel but I have yet to find a flourocarbon that works as well as Yo-Zuri or P-Line on spinning reels. One thing that Trilene Fluorocarbon excelled in was that it does not kink as bad as some flourocarbons. IMHO, once you get a kink in most flourocarbons, you have the potential for the line to break and fail.

Is it worth the money? Maybe, I guess it's just a personal preference.

[ABC123]

Seaguar Carbon pro is the ONLY line I will use as a leader, but it might have too much memory for a  main line.

I haven't ventured into the high dollar world of floro line, and not sure if I will. As long as Carbon Pro works as a good leader, I don't see the need to fill a whole spool with floro.

BTW, does anyone back their floro with cheap mono to keep the costs down???

[islandbass]

If limpness in a fluro line (a true fluro, not a blend of fluoro with something else) is what you seek, then use what I am using and that is Seaguar Invizx, at least in 6# test.

This is what I am using on my DS rig. Comparing fluro to other lines (and I use mono and braid too), I have noticed a very considerable increase in strikes with fluorocarbon line especially seaguar invizx.

I also bought 12# Yozui FC line last month because I needed some new line for my curado d and none of the other lines in the little store I was in was what I wanted including the Yozuri. I bought it as it was $10 for 600 yards and seemed to be my best bang for the buck in the little store.  I wasn't going to pay $10.00 for a Trilene XT filler spool!

It was markedly stiffer than invizx but that is not a concern on a baitcaster. This is neither a plus or minus to me.  Fast forward to this past Sunday. I was facing super heavy pressure on pink salmon from a salt water pier. Anglers fishing from the shore seemed to fare better with 8 fish landed and 0 for the Pier anglers.  The line of choice on the pier is 20# mono to contend with hard fighting fish, barnacles, and a hungry seal.  I landed the first pink salmon and it was caught with the 12# yozuri fc.  Imagine a sea of buzz bombs being jigged on 20# mono at unseen pink salmon, yet the one that got it (fooled) was on the FC line.

So these are the two FC lines I am currently using. They are both very different in how they feel in hand, one being limp and the other stiffer, but both give me the sinking and somewhat lesser visibility traits that I want.  Fluorocarbon rocks and has its place in my arsenal but I also use mono and braid in areas where they excel over fluoro.

[dodgeguy]

to all flourocarbon haters,get seguar invizx.i was once a flourocarbon hater like you guys.i cursed the stuff.then i found invizx.you have to spool it on soaked in hot water then when it drys treat it with kvd's line spray.it is the smoothest flouro out there.i suffer almost no line twists.i do use it on a 4000 size spinning reel in 10 pound test.i use 15 and 20 on my baitcasters.i have to say i think you get more bites with flouro.on days when fishing was tough i have out caught my friends using this line.abrasion resistance is awesome.

[roadwarrior]

to all flourocarbon haters,get seguar invizx.i was once a flourocarbon hater like you guys.i cursed the stuff.then i found invizx.you have to spool it on soaked in hot water then when it drys treat it with kvd's line spray.it is the smoothest flouro out there.i suffer almost no line twists.i do use it on a 4000 size spinning reel in 10 pound test.i use 15 and 20 on my baitcasters.i have to say i think you get more bites with flouro.on days when fishing was tough i have out caught my friends using this line.abrasion resistance is awesome.

Coming from a man that for a long time so strongly endorsed braid is a BIG statement.

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

[Bud]

If you want a good Flourocarbon get Sunline FC.  It is as good line as you will find.  The only drawback is cost and it is hard to find.  The next best I have found is Seguar invizx.  Do like Dodgeguy said treat it with KVd line spray.  I use it on all Spinning reels and no problem

[dodgeguy]

to all flourocarbon haters,get seguar invizx.i was once a flourocarbon hater like you guys.i cursed the stuff.then i found invizx.you have to spool it on soaked in hot water then when it drys treat it with kvd's line spray.it is the smoothest flouro out there.i suffer almost no line twists.i do use it on a 4000 size spinning reel in 10 pound test.i use 15 and 20 on my baitcasters.i have to say i think you get more bites with flouro.on days when fishing was tough i have out caught my friends using this line.abrasion resistance is awesome.

Coming from a man that for a long time so strongly endorsed braid is a BIG statement.

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

make sure you put it on and treat it.it's ok without treatment but better with it.

[roadwarrior]

Standard procedure for me...then I like to troll it, too!

[lubina]

I use pure fluoro on 2 rods only, my crankbait rod and my jerkbait rod.  

Me too

[justfishin]

After my two post on fishing lines like braid and flouro I have come to the same conclusion I had before. I used to be guilty of buying everything that came out and always went back to what I used before. Its the same way again for me. In my opinion, if you have to use a leader, spray the he** out of it, boil it, untangle it, etc, etc, Its not worth the hassle. Bottom line, the best line I ever used for light line in #6-#8 test is Super Silver Thread, but, they don't make it in green so I won't use it but, I also like the AN-40. The best all aroung line I will continue to use is Big Game, Excel and XT period. I have taken to #6 Yozuri Soft though and it is added to my everyday fishing. Good stuff, at least in #6. I did not like the #12, but, thats just me. To the point for light line( #6-#8 ) on spinning reels its BPS Excel in #8, AN-40 in #8 or YS in #6, period. For line #10 and above for baitcasters its Big Game in #10-#15 and for the heavy stuff and #17-#20 test its XT. I am done.IMO

[Triton_Mike]

The biggest 3 advantages of fluorocarbon is it's sensitivity, refractive index and it's sinking capabilities.  If your having twists in your line your doing something wrong.  For starters you CAN"T put flourocarbon on a reel straight off the spool without twisting it.  You have to throw it behind the boat to eliminate the twists.  Once you do this you won't need to nuke your line or coat it with anything.  Been doing this for 7 years now and I got clients that bring their 8-12 year old kids and they using my spinning 2500 and 2000 series spinning reels with no problems whatsoever with 4-8lb test.  I use fluorocarbon on pretty much every reel I own including topwater.  The difference is night and day between a 100% and a fluorocarbon coated line.  Once you start adding nylon to a 100% fluorocarbon you are chipping away at any advantages you had to begin with.  

Mike