Magnetic Brake...How to Use

[.dsaavedra.]

i found a Daiwa Procaster 100H once at a pond. its in pretty alright condition. anyway, if im using a senko and i loosen the spool tension knob, no matter how loose i get it the worm still doesnt fall fast enough. is this common, as in is it just too light for the reel? or is it a problem as in something wrong w/ my reel. it casts heavier stuff in a cinch. so that got me wondering, maybe its not falling fast enough because my magnetic brake is too tight (its on max=10). how exactly do i use magnetic brake???

PS: im very new to using baitcasters.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANY INFO!!!

[Lightninrod]

Yes, "10" is way too high in most cases and certainly with a weightless Senko.  Back it off to 6 or 7 and then tighten or loosen the cast control knob so the bait slowly pulls line off the reel with the rod held at about a 45 degree angle.  I'm guessing that your reel really need servicing though;  cleaning and lubricating the bearings and spool shaft(s), etc.

Here is more than you'll ever want to know about reel brakes.

Dan

[.dsaavedra.]

thanks dan. i'll loosen it. and you are very correct about that link....i couldnt even understand it!!! :-?

i just cleaned it and oiled it and respooled it today, i cleaned it all out w/ rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush and then sprayed wd40 in there.

[skillet]

 I leave the cleaning of my baitcasters to someone like Reelmech (professional) for fear ending up with a few screws too many ;D. I have read on other posts that using WD40 on insides is not good. It breaks down any oil or grease your reel needs, not just the gunky stuff. Post a question about it, someone that knows more than me :-[will answer...

                                             As Ever,

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[.dsaavedra.]

ok well i used WD-40 as lube, not to clean out old lube. should i clean this out and use something like 3in1 household oil?

[cart7t]

ok well i used WD-40 as lube, not to clean out old lube. should i clean this out and use something like 3in1 household oil?

There are oils and greases available at Walmart and elsewhere that are specifically for fishing reels.

[.RM.]

ok well i used WD-40 as lube, not to clean out old lube. should i clean this out and use something like 3in1 household oil?

Re-Clean that reel..

First off clean the old oils and grease from the reel using either Birchwood Casey's Reel Scrubber or hot water and Simple Green with a tooth brush. Then using a top quality reel grease, and reel oil re-lube the reel and re-assemble. Remembering the only place you use reel grease is on the drive gear and pinion gear teeth. The bearings and shims get one drop of oil each...

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!

[.dsaavedra.]

ok but now were getting off topic....can someone tell me how to use my magnetic brakes?

[Raul]

ok well i used WD-40 as lube, not to clean out old lube. should i clean this out and use something like 3in1 household oil?

WD-40 is an outstanding solvent and one of the things that it can dissolve aside from grease & oil is the glue they use to bind the rare earth materials used in the magnets of the magnetic brake system dissolving the magnets.

[.RM.]

if im using a senko and i loosen the spool tension knob, no matter how loose i get it the worm still doesnt fall fast enough. is this common, as in is it just too light for the reel? or is it a problem as in something wrong w/ my reel. it casts heavier stuff in a cinch. so that got me wondering, maybe its not falling fast enough because my magnetic brake is too tight (its on max=10).

Your mags are set to maximum, back off to about half or less..

ok but now were getting off topic....can someone tell me how to use my magnetic brakes?

Sure can. Turn the darn things off. Learn to use your thumb, and make sure the rod your using is able to cast the weight you want to throw. Set the drop rate of the lure using the cast control cap. Set the free spool rate so once the lure hits the water, or ground, the spool stops turning. Then set your mags at about half (if you have a 10 count dial then set it at five or less).

If you still can't cast your lightweight stuff, then find a rod were the lure rating of the rod has a rating were the weight your trying to cast is in the middle of the overall ratings of the rod. String up that rod and set the drop rate the same way and set your mags to half.

Most problems you had described are because the angler isn't taking into consideration that the rod cast the lure NOT THE REEL.

(Meaning if the rod isn't going to handle the weight you want to cast none of the changes your trying to put the reel through will help).

Just my .02¢

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!!

[.dsaavedra.]

hey thanks alot reelmech! i didnt give the rod much consideration... i'll have to check into that.

ok now you got me goin on this WD 40 thing....can it really dissolve magnets??? well i didnt put any on the side w/ the magnets, i only put it on the side w/ the gears. should i take it out and put in 3-in-1 oil in?

[.RM.]

hey thanks alot reelmech! i didnt give the rod much consideration... i'll have to check into that.

ok now you got me goin on this WD 40 thing....can it really dissolve magnets??? well i didnt put any on the side w/ the magnets, i only put it on the side w/ the gears. should i take it out and put in 3-in-1 oil in?

Yes it is a great solvent for dissolving organic materials (such as rust, etc.), and yes magnets are organic...If you put it on the gear side of the reel it will dissolve the grease used as a water repellant on the gear teeth for corrosion resistance.

Do not use a 3in1 oil in your reel, the viscosity of that oil is higher than most good reel oils and will slow the bearings down, cutting down on the reels performance.

The only thing that should be used on the gears as I have stated before, is grease on the main drive and pinion gear teeth, used for corrosion resistance (NOT LUBRICATION).

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!!

[.dsaavedra.]

ok so WD40 is a good thing then as it prevents corrosion?

[Raul]

It 's a good thing to clean but not to prevent corrosion, corrosion is prevented by maintaining your reel well oiled and greased.

[.RM.]

dsaavedra,

ok so WD40 is a good thing then as it prevents corrosion?

On anything other than fishing gear it is a good thing...

On fishing gear use a quality reel cleaner like the Birchwood Casey I recommended, or if your familiar with using soap use hot water and Simple Green.

Clean the reel out then use a QUALITY reel oil and grease to re-lube the reel properly..

If it is more than you can handle send it to me, i'll bring it back up to factory condition...

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!  

[.dsaavedra.]

lol well its not more than i can handle, and i dont think i need to send it to you. the thing is i dont have any "quality reel oil". would gun oil work? probly not huh?

and how come WD 40 is good at preventing corrosion on everything but fishing reels? and how come on the WD 40 pen package, it shows them putting it on a baitcaster? and how come you said that i needed corrosion resistance not lubrication, WD 40 is corrosion resistant... im so confused...

[.RM.]

lol well its not more than i can handle, and i dont think i need to send it to you. the thing is i dont have any "quality reel oil". would gun oil work? probly not huh?

and how come WD 40 is good at preventing corrosion on everything but fishing reels? and how come on the WD 40 pen package, it shows them putting it on a baitcaster? and how come you said that i needed corrosion resistance not lubrication, WD 40 is corrosion resistant... im so confused...

I gave you the link to a quality reel cleaner and lubrication in a previous reply in this thread..

No gun oil viscosity is to high (meaning the oil is to thick) and will slow your reels functions down...

WD-40 is only good at removing organic substances from moving metals to free them up. It's so called corrosion retardants are from the film it leaves behind...

I don't know why it's on the pen package, it has been on the paperwork included with the cans for eons. But that doesn't mean it was made for fishing gear.....

In the lubrication of fishing reels, the lubrication in them is the oil that is used on the bearings and some of the gears. The corrosion resistance that is needed is on the main drive and pinion gear teeth. You really need to read up on basic reel maintenance

I am factory trained and have been servicing reels for 25 years and stand behind all of my replies...

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!

[roadwarrior]

Be careful now...tug on a Big Dog's tail and it might bite.   :

ReelMech has just a bit more than a "casual interest" in reel maintenance and repair. 8-)

[Raul]

Fishing reels are just like cars, they need maintenance and the apropaite kind of lubricant for each and every single moving part in them, there 's no such thing as a multipurpose lubricant.

Here is not:

If it should move and it doesn 't ---> WD40

If it moves and it shouldn 't ---> duct tape

It 's a matter of viscosity and properties, lubricants are made to cover a particular lubrication need and that 's what you should use if you want your gear working properly and lasting you a very long time.

[.dsaavedra.]

dave, i trust ya man. but i dont have any reel oil. i guess i'll just have to go out and buy some huh? and that gun oil isnt very viscus at all...its pretty thin!

[.RM.]

dsaavedra,

dave, i trust ya man. but i dont have any reel oil. i guess i'll just have to go out and buy some huh? and that gun oil isnt very viscus at all...its pretty thin!

At this point in the game. Do what you have to, to get back on the water and be catching. As you gain more experience with your combos you will understand...

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!