power pro junk

[extreme1018]

i just got some power pro fishing line the other day and i have concluded that a wasted my 13 smacks on a very fancy package and little else. > it is 10lb green. i will say that it casts great but breaks easier than silly string.  i have lost a couple nice lure due to this. > three times  i have had a strike and when i went to set the hook......... nothing there at all. :-? i never even felt the break . it was like i had no line on the reel at all and just whipped the rod in the air foe the hell of it. :-[ i really like braid and i like the price point of power pro but it is useless if you cant catch fish with it. i might go with a higher test and try that. what do you think about this

[linesider7]

What knot were you using?  

Braid slips easily, a palomar knot is a must...

I've used braid for a long time now, and have never broken it with a fish.  My biggest snook, 44" 26lbs, was caught w/ 10lb power pro...

[Fish Man]

also you ay have your drag set wrong

[paleo]

hello  i used the line in the 10lb  only problems i had was visabilty and noise on guides it is a really good braid though  your problem was more than likely knot slippage you will be told this alot , ;)if you use a good  palomar knot you cant go wrong

[Bryant.]

If your problem is knot slippage with braid there are two things you can do. One is to super glue your knot the other is you can leave a longer tag end then you would normally so the knot can sinch tight with the extra length of tag line.

[bassnleo]

Another consideration, what line is your rod rated for? If your using 10 lb braid on a medium heavy or higher power rod you may be placing too much stress on line at hook set.

Knot is probably the #1 reason braid breaks.

What kind of cover were you fising around? Braid is good in most vegatation situations but put it around rocks and look out, it'll break in an instant.

I use 10 lb Power Pro regularly, I can honestly say that I have never broken it setting the hook. I use it on a 6'6" medium action G-Blanks spinning rod.

[Guest avid]

Power pro is the braid that all others are compared to.

It's great line.

You may have had a defective spool, but I doubt it.

[burleytog]

Were you using 10 lb. diameter line or 10 lb. strength?

[dodgeguy]

there is also counterfiet poer pro out there.

[surfer]

Possible problems

#1 the knot

#2 heavy action rod, heavy drag setting, Hard hook set.

If your knot is holding, then I recommend setting your drag to 2 or 3 lbs for your 10 lb line.  This alone should fix it.

Every one else commented on the knot so ill skip that and comment as if it was a break.  Braid has no stretch so the impact energy of a hook set it not slowly absorbed, but transferred all at once.  When mono breaks you can feel the loading of the line then the snap as all tension disappears.  With braid there is no loading of the line, the only loading or give is in the rod.  On a hard hook set you can use up that amount of give in 1/10 of a second.  Almost an unperceivable feeling like nothing was there.

At home try setting a hook into a log, fence post or something, and pacing off 50 ft of line then pretending to set the hook on it.  Try it with both braid and mono and you will feel that braid hook sets are more instant and require less swing of the rod.

[FishTank]

I love Power Pro and have never had a problem with it. I too think it is the knot. I would make sure to wet the knot before you cinch it down.

You might also try the braided line knot.

[RoLo]

If PowerPro is junk, then I don't know great line from junk

Roger

[extreme1018]

ok let me add some more info. after i wind in what is left of my line it is all frayed and does not always break at the knot. i was lucke enough that it broke with enough line left floating that i was able to retrieve my buzzbait only to lose it yesterday....... throwin a white heart buzzer. daiwa tierra baitcaster (brand new from bps in myrtle beach)bps pro qualifier medium action rod. my buzzer landed perfectly where i wanted it and i started my retrieve. a few seconds later, bam!!! a bass hits my buzz, goes down with it, and i watch my line go limp without even attempting to set the hook. now before all you smarties get to sayin this and that. i watched the bass swim away,and my buzz sink and without its tether. the knot i use is tied with the fast tie knot tier. i have conducted my own test and it has performed as well as any other knot out there, some times better. also the line came back all frayed up again.

i read an article about lines the other day somewhere that said some times the heat in the warehouse or back rooms at some major retailers can have this type odd detrimental effect on fishing line. imj thinking this might be the case. either way am going to try a higher test from a different store and see what happens.

[Banor]

Several questions here....no sarcasm here, I am truly curious.

1) Why are you using braid with topwater?

2) Why use 10 lb braid?

3) Was your line frayed as if it had been knicked up alot?

4) Why are you using a quick tie system?

The reason I ask is that for me

1) I never use a no stretch line with topwater. Stretch is a MUST for topwater. EDIT: Frogging being the only exception.

2) 10 lb braid is not going to give you less visibility than say 8 LB fluoro or a clear mono line. So I see no advantage to it. You'll tear up rod guides with very thin braid also. I cant imagine how bad the digging is in the spool with that thin of braid. If your line is dug into the spool it doesnt matter what your drag is set at.

3) You absolutely have to retie any knicked line, including braid, otherwise you pay the price.

4) There's no substitute for the real thing. Take the time to tie a good knot yourself, no matter what knot you use. But you really should use a palomar IMO.

Power Pro is not junk.  It is the only braid I will use and the percentage of anglers who will agree with you is VERY slim.

B

[extreme1018]

answers

Q1) because braid is what was on the rod and it was the only rod i had at the time

Q2) one of the rules in my club is 12 lb max and they don't make a 12 lb test power pro. the only way to fish a higher  test is to use a leader of 12 or less. which i should have been using. however the line just seems to break easy for some reason. read on at bottom of this post.

Q3) no it was not knicked up. it was and still is new. i have yet to catch a fish with this line. it HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH ANY TYPE OF HEAVE COVER THAT DAMAGES LINE. AT ALL. PERIOD.... I HAVE BEEN USING BRAID SINCE SPIDERWIRE CAME OUT MANY YEARS AGO AND HAVE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. EVER.

Q4) i use the knot tier because i like it. i have been using it for years and have never had line failures like this before. do some research on the tool and you will find that it ties a very strong knot

i took some of the line off of the reel today and tested it the old fashioned way..... with my hands....   it broke like silly string..... i then compared it to some regular stren original the same way and it was much more difficult to break........

i now have some 30 lb power pro i purchased somewhere else using the same rod, reel, and KNOT, and is has not failed me. i stuck a 4lb 8ozer from the local dink hole today also with the new line using a red and black crawbug.

by the way i never thought about the ultrathin cutting my guides... thanks for the tip

[burleytog]

So it was 10/2 Power Pro?

[extreme1018]

yes 10/2

[Banor]

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answers

Q1) because braid is what was on the rod and it was the only rod i had at the time

Q2) one of the rules in my club is 12 lb max and they don't make a 12 lb test power pro. the only way to fish a higher test is to use a leader of 12 or less. which i should have been using. however the line just seems to break easy for some reason. read on at bottom of this post.

Q3) no it was not knicked up. it was and still is new. i have yet to catch a fish with this line. it HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH ANY TYPE OF HEAVE COVER THAT DAMAGES LINE. AT ALL. PERIOD.... I HAVE BEEN USING BRAID SINCE SPIDERWIRE CAME OUT MANY YEARS AGO AND HAVE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. EVER.

Q4) i use the knot tier because i like it. i have been using it for years and have never had line failures like this before. do some research on the tool and you will find that it ties a very strong knot

i took some of the line off of the reel today and tested it the old fashioned way..... with my hands.... it broke like silly string..... i then compared it to some regular stren original the same way and it was much more difficult to break........

i now have some 30 lb power pro i purchased somewhere else using the same rod, reel, and KNOT, and is has not failed me. i stuck a 4lb 8ozer from the local dink hole today also with the new line using a red and black crawbug.

by the way i never thought about the ultrathin cutting my guides... thanks for the tip

Now we are getting some useful information.

1)I'd say you've got some old Power Pro that's been through the weather for a while.  Any line can get old and easy to break.  Replacing it was your best decision.  So I'd say Power Pro in this instance was not the culprit, old used line was the culprit.

2)As for 12 lb I would venture a guess that they meant no more than 12 lb diameter, which makes sense.  50 lb power pro is 12 lb mono diameter "I think".  65 lb might be 12 lb mono diamter.  I'd have to look at the package.

3)It's not new, it's new line to you.  Again, I'd say it's old and needed replaced.

4)To each their own.  If it works it works for you, who am I to judge.

I think you'll be happier with the 30 lb Power Pro.

B

[Garnet]

Inspect the line if you see little bumps or feel little bump the line is at fault send it back to your dealer or Power Pro. If the nozzles are not cleaned the spectra comes out in little clops and weakens the line.

I don't think power pro ever degrades.

I don't pay for it and use it over and over until my boss goes crazy.  Some Lakes the faded stuff works better.

Garnet

[surfer]

I don't think any of the prior answers were being smart *****.  Mine wasn't I had no idea you were an experienced braid user with a fool proof knot.  With the added info of your second post you pretty much answered your own question.  Especially with the hand brake test.

As for a club with 12 lb test limit, it makes me want to echo the words of Roar Warrior.  Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultrasoft.  He quotes the break strength as being much higher than its rating.

[Pond Hopper]

I will add that I tried some 10/2 power pro and its abrasion resistance is terrible and breaks often if not retied.  But the diameter of the line is so small that is bound to happen.  Also did you check your rod guides....not sure if that was mentioned.  Otherwise send it back to Power Pro with a 40 foot section, chances are they will replace it.  I have nothing but good to say about the line and their customer service.  I had a bad spool(150 yards) and in return I got a new 300 yard spool.