QUANTUM PTI20 ENERGY

[TOYOTAGUY2006]

IM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THERE OUANTUM REELS IVE BEEN THROUGHT 2 NOW THAT HAS HAD BAIL PROBLEMS AND I DONT UNDERSTAND IT NOW IVE WENT TO THE PTI30 ENERGY AND HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOOKSETTS WHEN I GO TO SET THE HOOK THE BAIL OPENS THE LINE DOESNT SLIDE ALL THE WAY IN THE BEARING SO WHEN I SET THE HOOK IT OPENS THE BAIL AND IS QUIET FUSTRATING EXPECIALLY IF ITS A BIG FISH ANYONE PLEASE HELP WITH THIS

[G3 Fan]

Welcome to the board.

I have some Quantums with the TiMag bail system, I haven't had any problems with mine. I know what you are talking about with line not seating on the roller though, it can be annoying.

Do you close the bail by hand after you cast? When I cast I stop the line with my index finger when the lure hits the water then close the bail with my other hand which also allows me to make sure the line is on the roller and I check to make sure I don't have any loops etc.

I think the magnetic bail system might not have as much resistance as a spring system and opens easier. On my Kinetic if the line isn't on the roller I can feel it when I start the retrieve, it has only happened to me a few times when I get in a big hurry to make a follow up cast.

You said you were on your second one, did you send it to Quantum or did you return the first one to the store? If I am not mistaken the TiMag bail system is guaranteed for life if you bought it new and registered it they have a 48hr turn around. http://www.quantumfishing.com/custsvc/warranty.html

My brother in law is new to fishing and I can't get him in the habbit of closing the bail by hand and checking the line before he retrieves. It seems like everytime we go out he'll end up with a giant birds nest that takes half of his line off the spool at one time.

[Guest DavidGreen]

Just to clarify....

Quantum products are warranted for a period of one (1) year from date of original retail purchase against defects in workmanship and/or materials. Purchaser should return defective products postage prepaid, insured with proof of purchase direct to Quantum at 6105 E. Apache, Tulsa, OK 74115. Quantum will repair or replace products at its option and return direct to purchaser.

This warranty does not cover Quantum products damaged due to abuse, misuse, normal wear, or excessive wear caused by neglect of cleaning and lubrication required or general service requirements due to owner's failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance.

The bail system isn't a separate product it is part of the reel as a whole. Meaning the one year warranty is applied to the reel as a whole.

In the reels write up it reads:

The revolutionary TiMAG III bail system combines the indestructibility of a titanium bail wire with the industry's only magnetic bail trip to give the angler a lifetime of trouble-free performance.

This does not imply that the TiMAG III system is warrentied for life...

TOYOTAGUY2006,

IM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THERE OUANTUM REELS IVE BEEN THROUGHT 2 NOW THAT HAS HAD BAIL PROBLEMS AND I DONT UNDERSTAND IT NOW IVE WENT TO THE PTI30 ENERGY AND HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOOKSETTS WHEN I GO TO SET THE HOOK THE BAIL OPENS THE LINE DOESNT SLIDE ALL THE WAY IN THE BEARING SO WHEN I SET THE HOOK IT OPENS THE BAIL AND IS QUIET FUSTRATING EXPECIALLY IF ITS A BIG FISH ANYONE PLEASE HELP WITH THIS

The E20PTi-A handles 140 yds. / 6 lb. test, and, the E30PTi-A handles 160 yds. / 8 lb. test. Are you using this size line, and what size lures are you throwing if you do?

The reason why I ask is, that there might not be enough weight on the line when you turn the crank to close the bail, to get the line set into the line roller, and your line is staying out far enough onto the bail wire to cause enough pressure to pop open the bail.

If the line isn't sitting directly in the line roller, the bail even if it were the older spring action bail would pop open. This is a result of letting the auto closer on the reel do the work instead of like G3 stated, closeing the bail by hand and checking for the position of the line in the line roller.

I have serviced a ton of these reels and they are a fine spinning reel.

Good Luck & Tight Lines!!!

[FishTank]

I have two Pti 20 and have never had a problem with either of them. So far they have been perfect.  I think ReelMech, as usual, has some solid advice.  I hope you find one that works out for you.  

[TOYOTAGUY2006]

I USE 8LB TRILENE MOST OF THE TIME ON A 6'3" G-LOOMIS I LOVE THE SET UP AND YES I CLOSE THE BAIL BY HAND EVERY TIME IM ANAL ABOUT THAT EVERY PTI I LOOKED AT HAS THE SAMY SMALL DIVET BETWEEN THE BAIL AND THE ARM THAT THE ROLLER IS IN I THIK MABEY I CAN FILL THIS DIVET WITH A EPOXY AND SAND SMOOTH THEN TUOCH UP WITH SOME FINGER NAIL POLISH THINK IT MIGHT WORK HIT ME BACK WITH ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS