I need knot help

[darren]

I currently use 12lb trilene xl.. I have just started using the palamar and am not very good at it at all.   When I go to clench the knot I have curls or bends in the line above the knot that dont straighten out...I am sorry it is hard to explain... I have lost 2 fish in the last week on line breakage at the knot and am unsure whether it is incorrect know tying  or weakening  of the line at these squiggly areas above the knot..  any help would be appreciated...thanks darren

[Garnet]

Skip the palamar and lern the san diago jam knot. It tightens down nicer and no line lays across other line.

Garnet

[roadwarrior]

Here you go:

http://www.animatedknots.com/knotlist.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

Select any knot and it will be featured in an animated format. After perfecting the Palomar Knot, take a look at the San Diego Jam and the Braid Knot (these are not listed on that site). For attaching line to spool, the Arbor Knot; line to line, Blood Knot & Albright Knot.

[michbass]

I cant remember where I saw it but I am looking for a esier knot than the palomar for cranks and anything with treble hooks.

[flechero]

San Diego Jam Knot shown here with several others.

http://www.netknots.com/html/fishing_knots.html

[cbfishalot]

Wet the knot and line before pulling it tight. Without the line being wet the line will rub together and cause friction. This will weakin the line and cause the line to break much easier. There is no need to change knots or line.

[Cephkiller]

Also, pull both ends of the line slowly until it tightens up.  Finish the knot by pulling firmly on the tag end, not the line end.

[Red]

i use trilene as well and i have always used an ordinary clinch knot or whatever its called...through the eyelet, wrap around main line a bunch of times and back through the loop, wet and cinch down tight, havent had any line break issues ever..not due to the knot anyway...that is the only knot i use except for the rapala knot on cranks...i know from recent experience that the clinch knots sucks for braid....i used the polomer for that, but didnt like the braid muc so now i am back to trilene XT

Cliff

[Guest avid]

The "squiggely" line end usually indicates a knot slip rather than a break.

You are definetly not tying the knot correctly.

Perhaps you are pinching the line so that a both strands in the form a loop go through the eyelet.

If so, may I suggest putting the single strand of line through the eyelet, then take the end of that same strand and pass it back through.  You now have the loop on one side of the hook and the double strand of line on the other.  A simple overhand knot, run the hook through the middle, moisten and clinch up slowly and snugly.  Keep it straight and simple.

Also, don't try to skimp on the amount of line you use to tie the knot.  

give yourself plenty of line to work with.

Do not give up on the palomer knot.

It is very strong, and very easy to tie, once you get the hang of it.

[newbiebassfreak]

i only use the palomar for dropshot other than the the uniknot is too easy and comes out very clean every time once you learn it. like above wet your knot tie it without clinching yet then place in your mouth to wet thoroughly and then cinch. With the palomar keep the two tags pinched together through out the tieing process and cinch by pulling both tags together and as the tag/loop gets smaller fold it over so it doesnt grab the backside of the eyehole on the hook it self. it take a few trys, again wet in mouth before full cinch. and like above also place the line in with out folding first/ feed/ looop and bring back through.

[Lightninrod]

I always use a Crawford Knot.   I wet the knot but I don't spit on it.  Before I cinch it down slow and tight, I drop the bait and knot into the water that's all around me and then I tighten it.

Dan

[rdneckhntr]

I do the palomar.  Just go slow and pretty soon it will become second nature.  

[JKLOCK]

Check out this site for a dicussion of the best knots for each type of line.

http://www.calfishing.com/freshwater/holistic_swimbaits/Lines_and_Knots.html

[Alpster]

Check out this site for a dicussion of the best knots for each type of line.

http://www.calfishing.com/freshwater/holistic_swimbaits/Lines_and_Knots.html

No offense, but this guy is not all there. He says that the Palomar knot is no good and great swimbait fishermen don't use braid. The facts are that the palomar knot maintains line strength as well as any other knot and our own "Fish Chris" is a renowned swimbait fisherman and you can look at the pics of the monster bass he has caught on his website and here if you search. He uses Tuff line (BRAID). Just my observation.

Ronnie