I WAS WRONG!!!

[dodgeguy]

I WAS DEAD WRONG ABOUT FLOUROCARBON LINE!!!i spooled seguar invizx on my rods and took them out for a spin today.this line was everything they say it is in terms of manageabilty.it is light years ahead of any other flouro i tried so far.it does feel more sensitve than mono but no where near as sensitive as braid.the one thing i don't like is the price.it's approx $12 a reel to spool up.now if it lasts and catches me more fish over the year then i will be hooked.

[Bass XL]

I ONLY use floro

[Redlinerobert]

Sounds interesting.  I swear by braid because of issues I have had with flouro, I may have to try that line.

[islandbass]

DodgeGuy,

My first full on FC line was Seaguar Invizx in 6# test for my drop shot rig. I liked this line from the get go. At 6#, it is limp supple and it transmits info to me quite well. I also noticed a higher catch rate.

Glad to see you too have found it to your liking.

[flechero]

EVERY type of line has a list of pro's and con's....  if it didn't, we'd all use the same stuff.

now if it lasts and catches me more fish over the year then i will be hooked.

Are you keeping notes or a log to determine this?   And if youhave been keeping a log, how did braid compare to what you previously used?

[dodgeguy]

i always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.i decided to try flouro again and went with seguar because it's the only flouro i never heard anything bad about.

[flechero]

i always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.i decided to try flouro again and went with seguar because it's the only flouro i never heard anything bad about.

Dodgeguy,

That's a huge statistic.  Even if there is some imbalance in the records or fishing, the number alone says something.  I'm surprised because you have been a big supporter of braid....  thanks for the honesty!

[sodaksker]

i always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.i decided to try flouro again and went with seguar because it's the only flouro i never heard anything bad about.

Dodgeguy,

That's a huge statistic. Even if there is some imbalance in the records or fishing, the number alone says something. I'm surprised because you have been a big supporter of braid.... thanks for the honesty!

What are you trying to do to me dodge?  You just got me converted over to sufix braid, now your pushing something else..well I ought to....

I do like the sufix braid much better than the power pro, hands down.  The sufix elite... well it has more line memory than I had hoped for but, it is strong.

[grid]

Dodgeguy,

So for a crankbait rod are you going fluoro or keepng braid on that pole?

[dodgeguy]

i always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.i decided to try flouro again and went with seguar because it's the only flouro i never heard anything bad about.

Dodgeguy,

That's a huge statistic. Even if there is some imbalance in the records or fishing, the number alone says something. I'm surprised because you have been a big supporter of braid.... thanks for the honesty!

What are you trying to do to me dodge? You just got me converted over to sufix braid, now your pushing something else..well I ought to....

I do like the sufix braid much better than the power pro, hands down. The sufix elite... well it has more line memory than I had hoped for but, it is strong.

sufix is still imho the best braid made.you still can't beat braid in heavy vegatation.

[dodgeguy]

Dodgeguy,

So for a crankbait rod are you going fluoro or keepng braid on that pole?

i'm going flouro on that rod also.flouro is supposed to be highly abrasion resistant so cranking over rocks it should be a plus.

[.ghoti.]

Dodgeguy, two things. One; you're not wrong, you just had a preference. There isn't any wrong answer to the line question. Just personal preference. Two; with your preference for Sufix products, I'm surprised you didn't try Elite for cranking. I gave it a shot this year, and have been impressed so far. It handles very well, and is very hard to see in the water. I haven't had it on long enough to bee 100% sold, but the results are good so far.

What I found most interesting was your take on the number of bites comparing braid to something less visible. That was precisely my observation. I used to use braid for everything. After having my hat handed to me on several occasions, I switched back to mono, and noticed an immediate improvement in numbers. I do not keep a log, but the difference did not require records to be apparent. Lighter, less visible line equals more bites, at least for me.

I haven't tried Seaguar yet. It's on my list to try this year. This is going to be the year I experiment more with lines. I've been on a rod and reel buying spree the last two years, and that is coming to a halt. Now it's a matter of determining the right rod/reel/line combos for each application. So far flouro has the edge for plastics, jigs and jerkbaits, mono is the one for topwaters, and cranking and spinnerbaiting are up for grabs.

I do think flouro outlasts mono. One of the experiments is to determine by how much. I have the same flouro (Transition) on my Senko rod that was on it last year when I put it away for the winter. After about four casts, it seemed to handle just as well this year as it did last year. It's been on the reel since last spring. This weekend will be the test. We have a trip planned, and hopefully I'll catch a few fish to see if the line will hold up.

Good luck with your experimenting.

Cheers,

GK

[senile1]

Fluoro and mono both have their place.  I use Sufix braid in heavy cover, but like some of you, I've noticed that braid isn't the best line to use when fishing in clear water or light cover.

[sal669]

Would be nice to have a line that "does it all" : Until than, there will be situations when one tipe of line outfishes the others. Use the right tool for the job !!!

I like mono for fast presentations (cranks, spinnerbaits), fluoro for finess and very clear water, braid(power pro) for long distance/ sensitivity and nasty cover (mostly weeds). Most of the times I start with a 4-6ft leader (gets shorter after retieing a couple times) when I'm using braid. In some situations a leader is not necessary( like frogging, slop fishing...)

Hope it helps...

[RoLo]

I always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.

Dodgeguy,

Were you using a fluorocarbon leader with the sufix braid, or were you tying direct?

Roger

[mike bat]

hey Dodge i was using 50lb power pro .... then i saw my brother inlaw killing me on the water ..... just for craps and giggles i grabbed some mono ( tryline xl ) .... my catch rate went up the day i switched ,,, now fishing is a war between me and the brother inlaw .... so i should tell you i fish mainly northern wisconsin lakes ,,, CRYSTAL CLEAR ....  now i will use braid for flipping in the salad or frogging ,,, maybee deep football head jigging ..... but most other fishing i use a co poly ,,, cranking i use mono RED CAST 10lb  ;D

[dodgeguy]

I always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.

Dodgeguy,

Were you using a fluorocarbon leader with the sufix braid, or were you tying direct?

Roger

DIRECT.I HATE LEADERS. ;D

[senile1]

I always keep a log.last year i caught 1/2 as many fish on braid as i did the year before when i used cajun red cast.is this because of the line or other conditions?i don't know.so i decided to go low vis again and see if my catch rate goes up.

Dodgeguy,

Were you using a fluorocarbon leader with the sufix braid, or were you tying direct?

Roger

I know some of you guys use the fluoro leader with your braid to eliminate the visibility issue but I haven't done this yet.  I still see it as a possible weak link in the chain so I use straight co-polymer or fluoro in situations that would call for it.  For those of you who use the fluoro leader with braid, could you comment on how well it holds up and if you've ever had any breaks or lost fish due to the knot at the leader?

[RoLo]

I know some of you guys use the fluoro leader with your braid to eliminate the visibility issue but I haven't done this yet. I still see it as a possible weak link in the chain so I use straight co-polymer or fluoro in situations that would call for it. For those of you who use the fluoro leader with braid, could you comment on how well it holds up and if you've ever had any breaks or lost fish due to the knot at the leader?

Senile1, in the recent past I used yard-long leaders of Trilene Big Game in conjunction with PowerPro braid.

I joined the mono to the braid with a uni-knot to uni-knot connection, and trimmed the tag-ends

about 1/16" from the knot without incident (works fine). Unless you're using a very light lure, the knot passes through

the tip-top guide with perfect ease. I'm sure it would work equally well with fluorocarbon, but I just don't like that wiry stuff.

In any case, I now tie PowerPro direct to the lure, because I never really noticed any difference "with" or "without" the leader.

Roger

[Long Mike]

I use 30 lb braid with a 12 lb fluro leader.  If tied conventionally, i.e. double Uni, Albright or Nail knots, the fluro knot will fail at about half its rated strength, because the braid will cut into the fluro.  DRat advised me to double the braid over itself when tying the knots.  I tried his suggestion and it worked very well.  Knot failure occured at about 11 lbs.  So, how do I know this?  I spent an entire afternoon conducting tests with a digital scale.

[Guest avid]

I have been using a blood knot with flouro and mono.  I put a little dab of crazy glue on it for confidence.  Knock on wood, but I a haven't had a knot failure yet.