basslovr Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Has anyone ever used one of these rods that has the line threaded through the rod and out the end? Looks like an interesting concept but not sure if it is a quality alternative or just a gimmick. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 1, 2007 Super User Posted April 1, 2007 Daiwa launched the inner cast rods back in 1992-1993, BPS had them for cleareance for over 5 years .... yup it took them 5 years to get rid of the stock. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted April 1, 2007 Super User Posted April 1, 2007 Please don't waste your money. Quote
Cephkiller Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Although the idea intrigues me, I always wonder about the following: Cheap rods sometimes have fewer guides which allow the line to contact teh blank when under stress. This supposedly heats up the line because of the friction and can lead to line failure. Wouldn't the Inner Cast rods allow maximum contact between the blank and the line by their very design? How does this effect line performance? Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted April 1, 2007 Super User Posted April 1, 2007 I think they have rings like every 1/4 inch made of zirconia or alconite or they spiral,but still a lot of contact which can be good for heat deflection but bad for friction on a cast .All jokes aside id think some of the top rod makes would have figured this out already and would have done research !!! Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted April 2, 2007 Super User Posted April 2, 2007 I had one of the Daiwa's for a while, A 7'2" MH, and liked it. It's a long story why I no longer have it. If I could find another one just like it, I'd buy it. It was a very good plastics/jig rod. I looked at the Cabela's version, but I really don't like to buy rods sight unseen. When the new Cabela's opens in the St Louis area, I'll be taking a look at these. As far as performance goes, it was quite a bit more sensitive, and did not twist under a load, performing rather like a spiral-wrapped rod. I used it only for t-rigs, jigs and senkos, so I noticed little if any effect on casting distances. I don't know how it would cast with very light baits, but common sense tells me that it would not be as good as a conventional rod for lighter weights. The rod came with a small demo piece, which showed the internal construction. It was a raised spiral on the inside. The increased line contact; the feature that made it so sensitive, would have to increase friction during casting. Look at how the line flows through the guides on a normal rod, when it's under a load. The line froms a series of angles, with the guides as the fulcrum of each change in direction. During the fight, I would hazard a guess that the the load being distributed more evenly would result in smoother line flow, and no hot spots. I had no line failures while fighting fish with the rod. The only down side to one of these rods is the line threader. If you misplace it, you are screwed. I tried to thread the line through mine without the threader, and it can't be done. Cheers, GK Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 2, 2007 Super User Posted April 2, 2007 Not also the line threader, you can get a lot of gunk inside the blank, gunk that 's never going to go away. Quote
basslovr Posted April 8, 2007 Author Posted April 8, 2007 Thanks for all the input guys, I think I will take the advice of not wasting my money. I heard that some products are made to catch fisherman, not fish. This sounds like one of them. Too many "cons" to make it worth all the "pros". Thanks again........ Quote
justfishin Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 It was a good concept but, don't waster your money. Quote
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