LOW7681 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Tackle tour has tested a number of fluocarbon lines for tensile strength, knot strength, abrasion resistance, stretch. They used Trilene XL for the mono comparison. Link is: http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontest.html Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted March 23, 2007 Super User Posted March 23, 2007 Good stuff in here. Very interesting results. Quote
llPa1nll Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Wow so much for some of the reasons I have been using Flurocarbon... Quote
heathen Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 That was a very interesting read, I seen it the other day, cant wait for the rest of the report. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 23, 2007 Super User Posted March 23, 2007 i've been trying to tell guys for years that flouro doesn't have any less stretch than mono.if i want a low vis line i wil use cajun red cast and save my hard earned money while getting better knot strength and easier handling line.if i want a braided line i will use sufix. Quote
Roger S Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I did not see anything about stretch. I fish with both mono and fluoro and the fluoro is more sensitive and stretches less. That is based on my own tests....fishing. Quote
LOW7681 Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 There was no table/graph on stretch. Stretch was mentioned as per below: "Stretch: Surprisingly, a biproduct of our tensile test was our ability to watch the stretch in each of our line samples before they broke. We stopped short of collecting data on this observation due to a number of questionable variables, but the one thing we can clearly state is, all the fluorocarbon lines we tested have either the same, or in some cases, more stretch than our baseline Trilene XL. We hope to address this at a later date, but for now, as far as we are concerned, the claim that fluorocarbon lines have virtually no stretch is absolutely invalid." Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 25, 2007 Super User Posted March 25, 2007 Looks like dogeguy is a believer of another line myth. Red line being invisible or low visibility. That red COLOR does become less visible as the water filters out the red COLOR as it goes deeper, but it does not dissappear. The color shows up as brown to black. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 25, 2007 Super User Posted March 25, 2007 Looks like dogeguy is a believer of another line myth. Red line being invisible or low visibility. That red COLOR does become less visible as the water filters out the red COLOR as it goes deeper, but it does not dissappear. The color shows up as brown to black. i never said it dissapeared.i said it greys out and becomes less visible.anybody who has read my posts on it will know that.i have also backed that up with numerous links to scientific articles as proof. Quote
The_Natural Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 I definitely knew fluoro stretched just as much as mono...I noticed it the first time I fished castable fluoro. Fluoro was used as a leader for a long time before it was used as a main line. The fluoro leader material is indeed stiff and doesn't stretch very much, and hence where fluoro got the 'no stretch' badge. When manufacturers made fluoro suiteable for main line, they had to soften it significantly, and this in turn added stretch. I fish fluoro for sensitivity and invisibility. As far as the Red Line is concerned, at least Shakespeare has started put a correct graph on the Cajun Red Cast box, showing the line to start disappearing at around 9ft. Most anglers catch the majority of their fish in water less than 9ft I imagine, so I don't think the red benefits you at all other than being more visible above the water. I will say I'd rather fish red line than a clear-blue fluoroescent. Regardless, line is good enough now days that you can choose whatever brand you like, and if you retie often you should be fine with whatever line you choose. BTW...Seaguar makes the Cabelas 'No-Viz', and the Cabelas 'No-Viz Extra' is Seaguar Inviz-X. Toray makes the Bass Pro XPS fluorocarbon, and probably why it tested so high. I have tried the XPS, and it is indeed one of the best I have tried. Quote
Guest avid Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 I thought the TT report was excellent. Anyone see a reason not to buy the reasoably priced XPS line? those super $$$ lines had nothing over this line. I put in an order to BPS last week and included a spool in 14 lb test. As far as the stretch. They may be revisiting in more detail later on but they made it absolutely clear that most of flouro's stretched AS MUCH OR MORE than the trilene xl, which is a stretchy line to begin with. I wish I could remember who posted the home based stretch test on this, but KUDO'S to you. You were bold enough to go against conventional wisdom and make your case. I remember Triton Mike made a number of posts defending his (and the industry) position that flouro was low stretch. But this test confirms it as far as I'm concerned. Prediction: Within the next 3-6 months one of the major publications will have an article called "Debunking the flourocarbon myth". Wanna bet? Quote
The_Natural Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 I thought the TT report was excellent.Anyone see a reason not to buy the reasoably priced XPS line? those super $$$ lines had nothing over this line. I put in an order to BPS last week and included a spool in 14 lb test. As far as the stretch. They may be revisiting in more detail later on but they made it absolutely clear that most of flouro's stretched AS MUCH OR MORE than the trilene xl, which is a stretchy line to begin with. I wish I could remember who posted the home based stretch test on this, but KUDO'S to you. You were bold enough to go against conventional wisdom and make your case. I remember Triton Mike made a number of posts defending his (and the industry) position that flouro was low stretch. But this test confirms it as far as I'm concerned. Prediction: Within the next 3-6 months one of the major publications will have an article called "Debunking the flourocarbon myth". Wanna bet? You will like the XPS fluoro Avid...it's good stuff and lasts a long time. You are getting Toray without the price . When I run out of my current supply, I'm going to just start buying the 1000yd spools of XPS. Quote
KYbass1276 Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Prediction: Within the next 3-6 months one of the major publications will have an article called "Debunking the flourocarbon myth". Wanna bet? Avid your prediction has somewhat already come true just look in the latest issue of bassmaster they talk some about fluro and its stretch Quote
Pa Angler Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Anyone using spinning gear wants to stay away for flurocarbon as it comes off the spool like a slinky toy if they can make it with a whole lot less memory then it may work there but my experiance and my fellow anglers is that it's not for spinning gear. Quote
sal669 Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Wowwwww!!! That throws a "monkey wrench" in the works :-/ Quote
bassnleo Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 The one thing I found a little "off" about the whole test was that they used Trilene XL dry. I wonder if the baseline would change if they tested the Trilene wet, that would throw the whole test off. I've read many times that floro does not absord water, mono does, which would probably change the break strength etc.. of the Trilene. I wanna see a test where wet Trilene is used as the baseline. Isn't all the line we use wet??? Quote
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