Line Problems?

[marlboroman]

The problem started last year. I hooked a nice bass and pow. the line snapped at the reel (sounded like a gun went off) This was 14 lb STREN mono line.

This happen to me 2 times late last year. Well to make it worse, today I am out fishing a local pond from the bank, I casted a few times and looked at the reel and noticed the line was cut in the spool again... why? I am using 12 lb Flurocarbon line now....

Reel - Extreme 6:3:1 bait caster

Rod - Extreme 6' 6" medium Heavy with a quick tip.

Line - Vanish Flurocarbon 12lb

I spooled the line tight with a damp towel running the line through it to get a tighter spool.

Anyone know why this is happening, I have checked the reel for problems, but I can see any at this time.

-MarlboroMan

[marlboroman]

any possible answers other then a loop in the spool... maybe the line is getting pinched,,, I call myself keeping the spool clean.

[Bassn Blvd]

Hmmmmm.  Your line shouldn't cut into the spool.  Is it possible the tension knob for the spool is too lose causing the spool to move away from the frame. This will allow line to get caught inside the spool.  Usualy if the spool is so lose for this to happen you will backlash every cast.  

[marlboroman]

i have the thumb break set to where the lure drops at a slow speed. that should not be to loose..

[roadwarrior]

First of all, meticulously inspect your equipment both visually and using a Q-Tip. Perhaps your reel has a nick or your guides are cracked. If your gear passes inspection, strip the line beyond the nick or respool. A potential cause of line failure might be the result of backlash. The physical integritity of the line is compromised by kinks in your line, especially with fluorocarbon. (Flurocarbon is actually a crystal). That is what I suspect the problem is. However, if that is not the cause and breakage reoccurs, you may have a fundamental problem with your reel and you will need to have it inspected professionally. Although I am not a fan of Vanish line, it doesn't sound to me that this is the problem.

[marlboroman]

I'll have it all checked out... What line do you prefer roadwarrior?

[TournyFish001]

I am thinking drag issues here...

[roadwarrior]

For spinning equipment: Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #4 (8.5 lb test) & #6 (11.9).

For baitcasting gear: Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #12 (19.5 lb test).

This fishing line is a bonded (not coated) fluorocarbon/ nylon copolymer. It is highly resistant to abrassion, impervious to water and UV light, has very little memory in use and it floats! I have never been broken off by a fish using this line.

Addressing drag settings:

Initially I set my drag at 25-30% of breaking strength (within the parameters of the rod rating). You can measure this by putting weights or weighed canned goods in a plastic grocery sack and tie this to your rigged line. Lift it GENTLY with your rod to no more than 75% of the rod's maximum flex. After measuring your setting with actual weight, you will get a "feel" for where the drag should be set for that particular equipment in the future. If you work within these guidelines, you will never break a rod on hook-set or break your line.  

[Rob G.]

Marlboro,  Do you get a lot of backlashes?  If you do, this weakens your line.  You know the little tags that you pull to get backlashes out, they cause weak spots in the line.  This could be your problem.

[marlboroman]

the only time i get backlashes seems to be on windy days...  :-/  

I have been using baitcasters for a few years now, and i am not going to lie, i do get some backlashes, but none bad enough to where I can't pull it out or pick it free with my fingers...

[marlboroman]

For spinning equipment: Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #4 (8.5 lb test) & #6 (11.9).

For baitcasting gear: Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #12 (19.5 lb test).

This fishing line is a bonded (not coated) fluorocarbon/ nylon copolymer. It is highly resistant to abrassion, impervious to water and UV light, has very little memory in use and it floats! I have never been broken off by a fish using this line.

Wow, thanks RW... that line is even cheaper then the vanish... I will give it a go....   Can you pick this up at walmart? I could go to basspro, but thats a 30 min drive where walmart is only 2 mins.

[Ben Lipiec]

I had the same problem two years ago with stren and vanish.  Though, I do agree with roadwarrior that it does not sound like the line's fault.  I would check the reel and guides for nicks.  Second, stren and vanish were the worst lines I have ever tried (no offense).  Try this test you will be amazed.  Grab a spool of 12lb vanish and a spool of 6lb gamma(either edge or copolymer) and cut about 2 feet of line from each spool and tie an over hand knot into each one.  Have somebody help you tie each end of the vanish to a pen or pencil and you pull until it breaks.  Do the same with the 6lb gamma and youll be amazed how much harder it is to break the 6lb gamma over the 12lb vanish .

ben

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[Bass1]

I had the same problem two years ago with stren and vanish. Though, I do agree with roadwarrior that it does not sound like the line's fault. I would check the reel and guides for nicks. Second, stren and vanish were the worst lines I have ever tried (no offense). Try this test you will be amazed. Grab a spool of 12lb vanish and a spool of 6lb gamma(either edge or copolymer) and cut about 2 feet of line from each spool and tie an over hand knot into each one. Have somebody help you tie each end of the vanish to a pen or pencil and you pull until it breaks. Do the same with the 6lb gamma and youll be amazed how much harder it is to break the 6lb gamma over the 12lb vanish .

ben

Two weeks ago, I was doing some experiments and tied a 12 lb vanish transition to a #10 yo-zuri ultra soft and pulled both ends until one of the lines broke. The vanish transition broke while the yozuri was still tied to both ends. I did the same experiment to all my other lines and the only line that broke the #10 yo-zuri was the 15 lb big game.