Leeboy Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM what gear ratio do you prefer for lipless crankbaits? Jackall TN 70/LV 500. And while I'm inquiring, I might as well get your opinion on small square bills. ATV 1.5. I'll be thanking you. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted Tuesday at 08:40 PM Super User Posted Tuesday at 08:40 PM I use 6.3.1 for just about everything. 2 Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Super User Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM I use a 6 or 7:1. With a lipless I’m using the rod to move the bait more than the reel, so I want something to pick up slack quick. But on the occasion when I’m not yo-yoing the bait, a 6:1 will help me slow down a little bit. I’m fine with either ratio for lipless cranks. 3 Quote
Eric 26 Posted Tuesday at 09:10 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:10 PM I’m going to mirror @Jar11591 but I’m going to play around with a 5 speed for steady retrieves with both baits you mentioned if the weather would cooperate a bit here in Illinois. 2 Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted Tuesday at 11:41 PM Super User Posted Tuesday at 11:41 PM 6.x for me. Quote
Bass Rutten Posted Wednesday at 12:30 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:30 AM 29-30ipt for both lipless and shallow cranking. 1 Quote
MediumMouthBass Posted Wednesday at 01:16 AM Posted Wednesday at 01:16 AM I use a 7, but would prefer an 8 (for picking up the slack) The only, and i mean only way IMO to fish a lipless is to rip it out of grass and yo yo it. My 7's are often fine, but when the grass starts growing they become incompetent fast. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted Wednesday at 01:41 AM Super User Posted Wednesday at 01:41 AM 7.x:1. I can always reel slower if need be. 2 Quote
ABU is overpriced Posted Wednesday at 01:52 AM Posted Wednesday at 01:52 AM 6.3 or 6.4 with a 90mm handle. Quote
rangerjockey Posted Wednesday at 09:58 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:58 AM I don't think it matters any. A cast bait. B retrieve bait C yo yo bait and roll up slack. Same for the squarebill, some days you can burn it .some days they want it slow. Quote
GRiver Posted Wednesday at 11:23 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:23 AM I use 6:8 to 7:5 for everything. I believe everyone has a natural cranking cadence so to speak… What ever your comfortable cranking speed is….. I adjust the reel to match my comfort zone…. I loot at IPT too. 1 Quote
greentrout Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM BPS Pro Qualifier 7.5:1 IPT 31 inches. Looking to get another faster bait caster at IPT 33 inches. Good Fishing Quote
ike8120 Posted Wednesday at 12:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:37 PM You can use a gear ratio from 5.4:1 to 6.1:1 or for a faster retrieve 7.2:1. I am using 6.1:1 but for smaller(shallow) lipless cranks I use a spinning setup. Quote
Peacedivision Posted Wednesday at 01:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:28 PM All my rods that throw a trap have 7ish:1 reels Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM Super User Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM 7.1 on cranks and 9.1 on traps especially over weed beds. Quote
Super User WRB Posted Wednesday at 03:15 PM Super User Posted Wednesday at 03:15 PM Any gear ratio with 26” IPT for lipless crank baits. Crank the slower or faster depending on conditions. Tom 1 Quote
Leeboy Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM wow, thanks for all the responses, as always, great advice. I appreciate it. Like most of you, I suspect, I don't need any more reels, I just want a couple more Shimano's. 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted Wednesday at 04:22 PM Super User Posted Wednesday at 04:22 PM I’m not sure it matters to me. I’ve been fishing them kinda like a jig lately. Just hopping it. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Super User Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM I stopped buying any BC reels with lower than 7:1 ratio. My rationalization is that I'd want to be able to use that reel for anything in my arsenal if I needed to and I can always reel slower. But get a slow reel and you can only reel so fast. But more importantly, needlessly making more effort. 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM Super User Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM 1 hour ago, the reel ess said: I stopped buying any BC reels with lower than 7:1 ratio. My rationalization is that I'd want to be able to use that reel for anything in mt arsenal if I needed to and I can always reel slower. But get a slow reel and you can only reel so fast. But more importantly, needlessly making more effort. I feel the same way. 7’s is my Goldilocks ratio. 1 Quote
Leeboy Posted Wednesday at 06:33 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 06:33 PM 2 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said: I’m not sure it matters to me. I’ve been fishing them kinda like a jig lately. Just hopping it. Me too, especially, the Jackall TN 70. thanks Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted Thursday at 10:51 PM Super User Posted Thursday at 10:51 PM I like the same speed reel for traps and chatterbaits, a 6 speed. Quote
papajoe222 Posted yesterday at 04:05 AM Posted yesterday at 04:05 AM The majority of my reels are 6.3:1 and they get the call for most of my cranking, lipless or not. I will break out a 7+ for burning during the summer, but that technique only works a small percentage of the time. I have slower and faster ones, but they are technique specific. Quote
Super User Catt Posted yesterday at 05:27 PM Super User Posted yesterday at 05:27 PM On 4/2/2025 at 6:23 AM, GRiver said: I use 6:8 to 7:5 for everything. I believe everyone has a natural cranking cadence so to speak… What ever your comfortable cranking speed is….. I adjust the reel to match my comfort zone…. I loot at IPT too. 1 1 Quote
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