bps compared to other rods

[MitchIsFishin]

Whew, what a war!!! I understand that Gloomis/St Croix are highly regarded, but I agree that those who have shouldn't rip those who are the have nots & vic versa. Many good/great rods out there, and I just got a Falcon, and a bps bionic blade/diawa procaster 6+1 since it was on sale as a combo. I played with loomis rods, and I believe once I get a handle on baitcasting, that may be the rod, (I have a new Avid & not even certain I can appreciate it yet), but  loving this site & forum as I do, I sure hope those who DO own higher end rods can help us who DON'T own higher end rods with catching fish.  

[hi_steel_basser]

I recently had a BPS Extreme rod break on me on the water. I replaced it with a G Loomis IMX. The difference is unbelievable. I cannot begin to describe the added sensitivity, the benefits of the lighter weight, or the better quality of the rod overall to someone who doesn't know. All I can say is that I will buy high end whenever I can afford it, because the difference is easily noticed by someone who knows  their equipment. The Johnny Morris series is good for the money if you buy the combo on sale. Otherwise, get a Falcon or G Loomis or another top name rod and prepare to be blown away.

[senko_77]

Doesn't Edwin Evers use the Pro Qaulifier rods exclusively?

[dodgeguy]

yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.

[castaway]

DodgeGuy, The last time I knew, the Daiwa light and Tough was priced lower than your Johnny Morris rods ?

Buy whatever brand of rod you want as long as you get out there to fish with it, what else really matters ?

As for the debate,I haven't  received my GLoomis rod yet, I am thinking tomorrow is when I will be getting it, but I have no doubt that it is going to be a great rod.The fact that so many people here who have nothing but good to say about them is a statement in its self.That many people cannot be wrong.

I  personally think the Bass pro shop rod line up was nothing more than a marketing scheme to provide different rod series that targets potential customers based on their income level, or spending habits.

Why would anyone pay regular price for a Bass pro shop rod when you can wait a little while later and buy the same rod on sale ? Don't worry if you missed that sale, because in a little while, they will have another sale on them. ;)Their Crankin stick is the best rod they make, after owning 2, I am not sorry I ever paid full price for them , they are a real workhorse of a rod for the full price , let alone the sale price. ;DIvan

[ww2farmer]

Like I said, I love my Extreme's + Bionic blades, cheap, reliable, sensitve, light (enough), and I seem to be one of the few to admit they are no GLX. I have only handled Johnny Morris rods, are they that good Dodgeguy?? If so I might get off the wallet and get one some day, as a BPS combo of corse. Untill then I'll fish my Bionic Blades, and Extreme's. This might not mean much to some of you but one reason (other than beeing a cheap SOB) that I fish BPS rods is the continuity of how they feel in my hand, I have used them so long, I know what each rod is or is not capable of,  no surprises, I have tried other rods in the past, but always go back to my BPS rods.

[skillet]

 Hope I don't get laughed at with parts of this post but: I was using 'glass rods with Zebco 33's until the early 80's using mostly jigs, worms and spinner baits. Even with the 'glass rods I thought I could feel the bites on the worms and jigs "pretty good" (relative term I guess).

 After that I got a Garcia Ultra-Mag on a (I think) Diawa Pro-Caster Boron rod. I thought I had died and gone to bass gear heaven.

 My wife got a young Boxer puppy that was destructive when left alone. We went somewhere one night and left him in the garage. He ate my Pro-Caster down so close to the handle, there wasn't even enough left to beat him with it (joke, don't want the PETA people after me). I thought...The Miss. R. is only a mile or so from our house and tow sacks are so cheap, but the biscuit burning, egg-sucking hound is still with us. Haven't forgiven him but he is still around (has to say something about my self-control ).

 Having said all that to say this, you can catch fish with all different ranges of gear. I've never got to fish with upper end rods (so maybe ignorance is bliss) but compared to what I've fished with before and my budget, the BPS rods get the job done really well. That's not to say that if and when I can afford one of those afore mentioned rods I wouldn't jump at the chance  in a minute !!

 I'll inflict ya'll no more with myself on this subject (I should hope, I don't type well and my fingers are in knots).....

                                                    As Ever,

                                                     Skillet

[RoLo]

Rod discussions are always amusing because they're mainly subjective.

With price in mind, I think the world of the Bionic Blade, they're super little shafts.

For twice the price however, I'm about 3 times happier with the Daiwa Light and Tough.

Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's merely one's personal opinion of feel, function and latitude.

Everyone isn't fishing the same way, so we're not all looking for the same thing.

Roger

[hi_steel_basser]

yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.

FYI, Dodgeguy, I own and use a Johnny morris combo as well. I would throw it in the trash for another Loomis/Shimano combo, if I could afford to.

[dodgeguy]

yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.

FYI, Dodgeguy, I own and use a Johnny morris combo as well. I would throw it in the trash for another Loomis/Shimano combo, if I could afford to.

before you do that send it to me!!!

[tunnelengineer]

What does Kevin Van Dam or Rick Clunn use?  These two guys are arguably the best fisherman for the last 15 years.  Even though they are sponsored by BPS, what equipment do they use? I would love to find out.....

[Hawgin]

What does Kevin Van Dam or Rick Clunn use? These two guys are arguably the best fisherman for the last 15 years. Even though they are sponsored by BPS, what equipment do they use? I would love to find out.....

I'm pretty sure that Rick Clunn uses his name branded BPS rods, and possibly his named branded reels.  I know for a fact that KVD uses all Quantum equipment.  He uses the Energy PT and Tour Edition PT reels and rods.

[Pond-Pro]

I just bought a 6'6" medeim action Shakespeare Durango for $7 at wallmart.  ;D

I thought I would just through that into this conversation.  

[Alpster]

I just bought a 6'6" medeim action Shakespeare Durango for $7 at wallmart.  ;D

I thought I would just through that into this conversation.  

EXCELLENT! Pond-Pro! Now start a thread asking about the best reel to pair that beauty up with. Congratulations on the new rod.  

Ronnie

[sal669]

I stand corrected, HAWGIN.

I didn't specify what I understand by "top of the line". In my opinion  that is a $350-650 reel paired with a $250-350 rod. Let' say $500 and up for a combo.

On your list only Ish Monroe qualifies.

Of course they ALL use quality stuff :there livelihood depends on having depandeble, quality tools.They are nog gonna go out there and try to make a living with a Scooby-doo outfit.

Ike used Daiwa Advantage reels -$100

Ben Matsubu- on the crancbait rod used BPS Johnny Morris reel

Shimano Curado is used by a lot of tourny guys, but is far from beeing the most expansive shimano( Calais @ $650)

Denny Brauer at Lake Champlain used daiwa TDX rod&reels; not the most expansive( Steez @ $450)

You see what I meen ?

I apologise if I ruffled any feathers, I will have no more comments on this issue.

[.ghoti.]

Fishtank, thanks for the info on the JM 7' medium rod. I have a 7' MH, and it's a very good soft plastics rods. I'd call it fast action, not moderate. I'm in the market for a lighter power, more moderate action rod for tubes and flukes. I've been trying to make up my mind between the JM 7' M, and Avid 6'8" M and a Daiwa Light & Tough 7' M.  I'd almost eliminated the JM from consideration based on my experience with the MH one I have. Nothing wrong with it, mind you. It's just too stiff for what I want in a fluke rod. I'll have to add it back to the mix, based on your comments.

To answer the original question, the only BPS rod I own is the Johnny Morris. I'll almost agree with Dodgeguy. It is a great rod, for the price. I don't have any top of the line rods. The three I mentioned above are the best rods I  own. I currently have one of each, in different sizes than quoted above. These three, in my mind, are the leaders in the most bang for the buck category. And for my money, right now, the Light & Tough rods are the best thing going, for the price.

I just can't justify spending $300+ for a rod. For those of you who can, more power to ya. I've used a GLX that a friend of mine has, and found it to be the all time best feeling rod I've ever had in my hands. I admit that freely. I just won't spend that much on rod. I can afford to, I choose not to.

These rod debates are always fun to read. And to participate in.

Cheers,

GK

[castaway]

They are nog gonna go out there and try to make a living with a Scooby-doo outfit.

That is what we need.A high end Shimano , or Daiwa Scooby doo outfit.Life would get a bit better if we had that option.  Ivan

[Lil Baby Cousin Ray-Ray]

i agree someone should start a petition and while they are at it why not teenage mutant ninja turtles

[cart7t]

 Hope I don't get laughed at with parts of this post but: I was using 'glass rods with Zebco 33's until the early 80's using mostly jigs, worms and spinner baits. Even with the 'glass rods I thought I could feel the bites on the worms and jigs "pretty good" (relative term I guess).

 After that I got a Garcia Ultra-Mag on a (I think) Diawa Pro-Caster Boron rod. I thought I had died and gone to bass gear heaven.

 My wife got a young Boxer puppy that was destructive when left alone. We went somewhere one night and left him in the garage. He ate my Pro-Caster down so close to the handle, there wasn't even enough left to beat him with it (joke, don't want the PETA people after me). I thought...The Miss. R. is only a mile or so from our house and tow sacks are so cheap, but the biscuit burning, egg-sucking hound is still with us. Haven't forgiven him but he is still around (has to say something about my self-control ).

 Having said all that to say this, you can catch fish with all different ranges of gear. I've never got to fish with upper end rods (so maybe ignorance is bliss) but compared to what I've fished with before and my budget, the BPS rods get the job done really well. That's not to say that if and when I can afford one of those afore mentioned rods I wouldn't jump at the chance  in a minute !!

 I'll inflict ya'll no more with myself on this subject (I should hope, I don't type well and my fingers are in knots).....

                                                    As Ever,

                                                     Skillet

Thanks Skillet.  

It's hard to believe I could ever catch a fish way back 25-30 years ago fishing with those pool cue Lew's Speed Sticks or gasp, those old Eagle Claw glass worm rods I had.. Geezz,

Hell, the early Graphite rods that came out used to snap way too easy but we put up with them because of the unbelievable sensitivity.  Apparently I wasn't feeling anything!   ;D

Obviously I need to load up on GLX's just so I can tell the difference between a rock on the bottom and a fish fart.  

[joebass]

I have a 7' M Johnny Morris Signature Series casting rod, it is a fine rod and a good value but it pales in comparison to my G. Loomis rods. Yes, it does have an excelent reel seat and maybe the best guides out there but it is no were near close to the sensitivity of a Loomis GLX or IMX. The action is totally different. It is more of a moderate-fast rod. I find that this rod does well with lighter crank baits but not so well with jigs and senko type baits.

I have tried buddy's extreme and tourney special and I thought they were also good rods for the money. It would be hard to find a rod of the same quality at the same price but I would not compare them to higher dollar rods.

Bottom line, I guess, is one needs to fish both and find what fits that persons fishing style, comfort level, and wallet.

The 150 dollar jm pales in comparison. no where near close to the sensitivity as a 400 dollar glx. I have never fished with either of these rods but i wouldnt expect a 150 dollar rod to be compared to a 400 dollar rod.

The bps extreme at 100 dollars and bps tourney special at 50 dollars cant be compared to anything gloomis makes except maybe the 140 dollar gl2 which is nearly 3x the price as the tourney special. all of the rest of gloomis rods are in a class above anything with bps on it.

Does anyone know who makes the BPS rod blanks?