Tat 80 Vs 100???

[GetFishorDieTryin]

After getting a Tat 80 in hand I was impressed and liked the feel.  Yesterday I got to get my hands on the new Tat 100, and I was just as impressed at how much more palmable the new 100 is than the older gen.  That dimple above the T wing doesn't sound great, but in reality, it gave me an effortless, but firm grip on the frame.  Now I dont know which one to get.  The 80 is considerably lighter, but the 100 is a little more versatile.  Both have the same handles and grips (I think) so there's no advantage there.  Theres also the SV 100, which looks like it shares the same small frame as the Tatula 100.  I could go without the goofy spider.  They only had left hand models of the SV so I couldn't get a proper feel.

Does anyone have the Tatula 80 and 24 100?  Given the choice of 1 reel which one would you take and why?  If anyone has all 3 reels, the same question applies? TIA

 

[NorthernBasser]

I have a few of the new 100's and a few of the previous version (with the red accents on the clutch bar). To me, the previous version sits more comfortably in my hand. The new 100 sits higher on the reel seat. But that's just me. The new model obviously has it's improvements over the last version. Really solid reel.

 

I also have a handful of the 80's, which I love more than the 100's. The 100 obviously has more line capacity, if that's important to you. What do you plan on using it for? 

[JackstrawIII]

9 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

What do you plan on using it for? 

That's how I chose. I have the 80 for normal use and the 100 for when I need to bomb stuff. 

[MiceNReets]

23 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

I have a few of the new 100's and a few of the previous version (with the red accents on the clutch bar). To me, the previous version sits more comfortably in my hand. The new 100 sits higher on the reel seat. But that's just me. The new model obviously has it's improvements over the last version. Really solid reel.

 

I also have a handful of the 80's, which I love more than the 100's. The 100 obviously has more line capacity, if that's important to you. What do you plan on using it for? 

What do you use your 80s for?

[NorthernBasser]

16 minutes ago, MiceNReets said:

What do you use your 80s for?

 

One I have paired up with a 6'10 MH rod I use for jigs/swim jigs in close quarters/docks.

Another I have paired on my primary Fluke rod. 

One of my bladed jig rods has an 80 on it. 

Another on my squarebill/DT6 rod. 

And another on topwater rod. 

 

Honestly, it can do pretty much everything. I wouldn't use it for punching or frogging, but that's just me. And if I wanna bomb deep diving cranks I'd go with the 100. But this reel bombs baits plenty far, and I love how it feels in hand.  

[MiceNReets]

53 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

 

One I have paired up with a 6'10 MH rod I use for jigs/swim jigs in close quarters/docks.

Another I have paired on my primary Fluke rod. 

One of my bladed jig rods has an 80 on it. 

Another on my squarebill/DT6 rod. 

And another on topwater rod. 

 

Honestly, it can do pretty much everything. I wouldn't use it for punching or frogging, but that's just me. And if I wanna bomb deep diving cranks I'd go with the 100. But this reel bombs baits plenty far, and I love how it feels in hand.  

Ok.   I have mixed feelings with mine.   I’ll see if it changes this season.   I have it on a Megabass destroyer Go-Ten 5’10 MH rod for jigs, swim jigs and topwater in close quarters 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

7 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

I also have a handful of the 80's, which I love more than the 100's. The 100 obviously has more line capacity, if that's important to you. What do you plan on using it for? 

It would probably go on either a 7'1 M and be used for just about everything or a 7'2 MH and be used T/Free rigs, swim jigs, and maybe buzz baits.  If it goes on the M it would be #12 Invizx and #15 on the MH.  If the SV could match the 100 in distance I would buy the SV 100 for sure, but if Daiwa didnt change anything but the frame on the SVs I dont see it being any better with distance.  Does the 80 cast better than the 100? 

[ABU is overpriced]

If you want the tat 80, just get the alphas, its superior in every way. Between the 80 and the 100, i'd get the 100 for sure.

[FryDog62]

1 hour ago, ABU is overpriced said:

If you want the tat 80, just get the alphas, it’s superior in every way

Except maybe casting distance. The SV spool is great for skipping but limits range for sure. 

[Bigbox99]

4 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

If you want the tat 80, just get the alphas, its superior in every way. Between the 80 and the 100, i'd get the 100 for sure.

I have both and prefer the Tatula 80 for all around use.  It has a more versatile braking profile and I like the dial location better that allows for adjustments while palming the reel instead of having to flip it over and dig at the little nub dial on the Alphas.  The Alphas is way better at control so it gets the nod for jigs and plastics.  I've shelved mine and will be pairing it with a jig rod in the future.

[Eric 26]

I have an 80 that’s spooled with 10 pound Seaguar Basix fluorocarbon and love it for the mini max bladed jig or an 1/8 ounce swim jig without a trailer. I also have the last generation Tat 100 and use that primarily for 1/4 ounce spinner baits. Having said that I know this is a silly question but has anyone seen the Tat 100 SV in person? I’m curious if the color is more grey or blueish grey such as the Alphas? 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

2 hours ago, Eric 26 said:

I have an 80 that’s spooled with 10 pound Seaguar Basix fluorocarbon and love it for the mini max bladed jig or an 1/8 ounce swim jig without a trailer. I also have the last generation Tat 100 and use that primarily for 1/4 ounce spinner baits. Having said that I know this is a silly question but has anyone seen the Tat 100 SV in person? I’m curious if the color is more grey or blueish grey such as the Alphas? 

Its like a high shine blue a tinted kinda grey, like the older Tat elite rod, but with a blue hue to it.  Not my first choice in color, but its not hideous.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

9 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

If you want the tat 80, just get the alphas, its superior in every way. Between the 80 and the 100, i'd get the 100 for sure.

See, that was my point about the 3rd party prices all the reels dont follow the same discount.  If I could the same heavy discount the alphas it would be cheaper.  The alphas is close 2x the price @185$, I can get an 80 for just over 100$, a 100 for 110$ and the sv 100 for 140$.  Ive had all the Tatulas in hand, but not at the same time.  TD had the sv70, 80, but not the newer 100 in stock so I couldnt compare them really.  BPS had the 100 and sv100.  The sv was a lefty model, but as far as I could tell they were the same reel, just different spool and paintjob.  

[ABU is overpriced]

6 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

See, that was my point about the 3rd party prices all the reels dont follow the same discount.  If I could the same heavy discount the alphas it would be cheaper.  The alphas is close 2x the price @185$, I can get an 80 for just over 100$, a 100 for 110$ and the sv 100 for 140$.  Ive had all the Tatulas in hand, but not at the same time.  TD had the sv70, 80, but not the newer 100 in stock so I couldnt compare them really.  BPS had the 100 and sv100.  The sv was a lefty model, but as far as I could tell they were the same reel, just different spool and paintjob.  

Well of course they don't follow the same discount, but when you look at the price of the alphas tw when they first came out, and at the prices you can find them now, and pretty much all over in japan, they're much cheaper than what they once were, making them a much better buy than they were originally. And an alphas is as smooth as a zillion, so even though they're more expensive than a Tat, smoothness goes a long way. They're also lighter, a better choice for jerbaits for sure.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

3 minutes ago, ABU is overpriced said:

Well of course they don't follow the same discount, but when you look at the price of the alphas tw when they first came out, and at the prices you can find them now, and pretty much all over in japan, they're much cheaper than what they once were, making them a much better buy than they were originally. And an alphas is as smooth as a zillion, so even though they're more expensive than a Tat, smoothness goes a long way. They're also lighter, a better choice for jerbaits for sure.

The weights about the same as the 80, but an ounce in the case of the 100 if a big difference.  Ive got no experience with Alphas platform at all.  I think a buddy of mine has an alpahs air I think, but ive never even held it.  Ive gotten my hands on the Tatulas and theyve been around long enough that any problems would have surfaced.  So far the feedback is really good or great for every Tatula.  For the price of 1 alphas, I could spend 30$ more and get 2 80s.  If I was left handed I could buy 2 80s and a vison 110 for the price of 1 alphas.  If I was going to spend that much, I would spend the extra 50 and get a zillion.  Honestly both reels should drop in street and market value soon, they're 4 and 5 years old, a new gen will be out this year or next.

[ABU is overpriced]

3 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

The weights about the same as the 80, but an ounce in the case of the 100 if a big difference.  Ive got no experience with Alphas platform at all.  I think a buddy of mine has an alpahs air I think, but ive never even held it.  Ive gotten my hands on the Tatulas and theyve been around long enough that any problems would have surfaced.  So far the feedback is really good or great for every Tatula.  For the price of 1 alphas, I could spend 30$ more and get 2 80s.  If I was left handed I could buy 2 80s and a vison 110 for the price of 1 alphas.  If I was going to spend that much, I would spend the extra 50 and get a zillion.  Honestly both reels should drop in street and market value soon, they're 4 and 5 years old, a new gen will be out this year or next.

The Alphas is $177. I don't know if USD dropped or the yen increased but these were at $150 for a long while. The Tat 80 is $168. Both from amazon jp. You ain't spending $30 and get 2 80s. For $9 more you're getting an Alphas, which is simply a superior reel to anything tatula. If the Zillion wasn't a thing, to me, this would be the reel to get from daiwa if we're talking about bang per buck. The Tat100 might be one of those reels as well, but every tat i see, are all buzzing, so unless this was fixed on these, i wouldn't choose a tat over an alphas, especially at such a ridiculously small price difference.

[Bigbox99]

6 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

The Alphas is $177. I don't know if USD dropped or the yen increased but these were at $150 for a long while. The Tat 80 is $168. Both from amazon jp. You ain't spending $30 and get 2 80s. For $9 more you're getting an Alphas, which is simply a superior reel to anything tatula. If the Zillion wasn't a thing, to me, this would be the reel to get from daiwa if we're talking about bang per buck. The Tat100 might be one of those reels as well, but every tat i see, are all buzzing, so unless this was fixed on these, i wouldn't choose a tat over an alphas, especially at such a ridiculously small price difference.

Tatula 80s are closer to $100 on AE.  

 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

13 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

The Alphas is $177. I don't know if USD dropped or the yen increased but these were at $150 for a long while. The Tat 80 is $168. Both from amazon jp. You ain't spending $30 and get 2 80s. For $9 more you're getting an Alphas, which is simply a superior reel to anything tatula. If the Zillion wasn't a thing, to me, this would be the reel to get from daiwa if we're talking about bang per buck. The Tat100 might be one of those reels as well, but every tat i see, are all buzzing, so unless this was fixed on these, i wouldn't choose a tat over an alphas, especially at such a ridiculously small price difference.

The 80 has been at 100$ for months.  If I spend another 30$ I can buy 2 80s for 1 alphas, that's how the math works.  Theres no reason to pay another 70$ to get it from digi.

I guess the guy who was talking up how street prices are the better place setter is now going by JDM retail.

[ABU is overpriced]

2 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

The 80 has been at 100$ for months.  If I spend another 30$ I can buy 2 80s for 1 alphas, that's how the math works.  Theres no reason to pay another 70$ to get it from digi.

I guess the guy who was talking up how street prices are the better place setter is now going by JDM retail.

I am not looking at digitaka. Both prices are from Amazon JP. And i always go by JDM/Ali prices. I haven't purchased a single reel locally since 2012, so this market is obviously pretty pointless to me.

9 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

Tatula 80s are closer to $100 on AE.  

 

I saw, but they don't ship to my address so couldn't tell what they're charging for shipping. If the shipping is free, for sub $100 it's a good deal, but considering how higher end the alphas feel, at $177 i'd go with it for sure, but if you need a bunch of reels, or you don't care about the reel being silky smooth and a lasting smoothness, then the 80 is a good choice.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

4 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

I am not looking at digitaka. Both prices are from Amazon JP. And i always go by JDM/Ali prices. I haven't purchased a single reel locally since 2012, so this market is obviously pretty pointless to me.

I saw, but they don't ship to my address so couldn't tell what they're charging for shipping. If the shipping is free, for sub $100 it's a good deal, but considering how higher end the alphas feel, at $177 i'd go with it for sure, but if you need a bunch of reels, or you don't care about the reel being silky smooth and a lasting smoothness, then the 80 is a good choice.

USDM market Value is higher, 200$I think, bure definitely more than 168 or whatever you said.  Which is strange because I thought you said they only cost 20$ more than the 70ish$ SLX in in the other thread

I would be really hesitant to essentially double the budget, because I've never seen or held any alphas. I would just get a Zillion or a Coastal 80, which I heard is actually based on the alphas, but I'm not sure.

Ive gotten a couple reels from AE and Im pretty sure I always got free shipping.  The reel may have cost a little more than other vendors, but the other vendors would cost more with the shipping cost.

I thought they shipped everywhere in the lower 48, strange they won't ship to you after quoting AEs prices the other day. 

Shimano must have read that thread you wrote about the SLX and pulled some strings to get you blacklisted on AE, cuz I think they ship everywhere for free in the lower 48.

Both 80 and 100 feel smooth to me and so far, they seem to hold up well according to people that have them.  The 100s still somewhat new, but the 80 has been around over 2 years.  

Sounds like you wasted your money and should have gotten another alphas, or even better an SLX.  

My SLX hasnt gone rough, and its been beat.  I guess that would contradict the whole Tatula>SLX notion.

[ABU is overpriced]

50 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

USDM market Value is higher, 200$I think, bure definitely more than 168 or whatever you said.  Which is strange because I thought you said they only cost 20$ more than the 70ish$ SLX in in the other thread

I would be really hesitant to essentially double the budget, because I've never seen or held any alphas. I would just get a Zillion or a Coastal 80, which I heard is actually based on the alphas, but I'm not sure.

Ive gotten a couple reels from AE and Im pretty sure I always got free shipping.  The reel may have cost a little more than other vendors, but the other vendors would cost more with the shipping cost.

I thought they shipped everywhere in the lower 48, strange they won't ship to you after quoting AEs prices the other day. 

Shimano must have read that thread you wrote about the SLX and pulled some strings to get you blacklisted on AE, cuz I think they ship everywhere for free in the lower 48.

Both 80 and 100 feel smooth to me and so far, they seem to hold up well according to people that have them.  The 100s still somewhat new, but the 80 has been around over 2 years.  

Sounds like you wasted your money and should have gotten another alphas, or even better an SLX.  

My SLX hasnt gone rough, and its been beat.  I guess that would contradict the whole Tatula>SLX notion.

The Tat 100 i mentioned was on ali, the alphas from amazon jp because they're cheaper there than ali, and the tat 80 i mentioned was on amazon jp, but they're indeed less expensive on ali, i just couldn't see the shipping cost. From Canada, so i am not seeing the same shipping options that you do. The cheap Tat 80 don't even ship to my address, so even if i wanted to buy it, i couldn't.

As of now, i have not heard of a Tatula that doesn't go buzzy within a few seasons, and because of this reason, i would always go with the alphas, which uses the same gears as the zillion, which are amazing. IF the tat 80 and the tat 100 don't go buzzy, they'll be competing with the zillion for best bang per buck, but still behind the Zillion HD that offers too much for what they're going for.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Ahh, being from Canada makes sense.

Yes, indeed they are cheaper on AE, that's why contrary to your opinion, you are able to get 2 80s for an additional 30$ on top of the cost of an alphas. 

Since you had quoted before shipping on AE of Tatula, I had assumed you were aware that the street cost of the tat80 has been within 10% of 100$ since Halloween.  You know they day about assuming, which is an error on my part.  

I also had mistakenly thought you had bought a Tatula 100, instead of being impressed by one your friend owned.  

[1984isNOW]

On 3/25/2025 at 2:54 PM, GetFishorDieTryin said:

I can get an 80 for just over 100$, a 100 for 110$ and the sv 100 for 140$

Where are you seeing these prices? The new tat100 and new tat sv for those prices?

 

@ALL 

does the SV Boost spool cast as far or farther than the regular spool in the new tat100?