'24 Tatula 100 is far superior to the SLX and the Curado?

[ABU is overpriced]

First thing first, i always was a Tat hater since they were introduced. Always thought that they're Daiwa's "pollution" line of reels that the company focused too d**n much. I also mainly stick to higher end reels, so i don't own the '24 Tat, nor the SLX or the Curado. But i was on the water for the first time of the year just a couple of days ago, and was fishing with someone who had all three. Tried the Tat, and it blew my mind how far superior the '24 Tat felt when compared to the other two. They didn't even feel like they were in the same league. The Tat felt very close to the 21 Zillion, while the SLX was closer to older Black Max with the aluminum frame. Same with the Curado, the reels feels pretty low end, and doesn't come close to the 24 Tat when it comes to palmability.

Now i don't know how well these Tats will last, but my hatred toward these reels has ended😎If they were ligher, say in 6.5oz range, i'd even get one just to try. Has anyone else tried these three side by side?

[Brian11719]

I have not tried an SLX but recently picked up a Curado 200 and a Tatula 100. The Curado is ok and as good or maybe a little better than the previous favorite in my lineup (Lews Tournament Pro) but the Tatula 100 is already my new favorite reel...by far. The handle and the brake dial are both a little too small IMO but aside from that it's been perfect. To be fair the Tournament Pro came out several years before the latest gen Curado or Tatula and it should be interesting to see what they replace it with if / when that happens, but at this point I'm leaning heavily towards the Tatula line for future reels. Hopefully they will make a bigger brake dial and increase the size of the handle a bit at some point if not I can live with it (or just replace the handle).

 

I still like Shimano the best for spinning reels, but it's looking like Daiwa might have converted me for casting setups.

[jbrew73]

I have not tried all of those reels but I have to ask. Is Shimano  overpriced too?

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[ABU is overpriced]

38 minutes ago, jbrew73 said:

I have not tried all of those reels but I have to ask. Is Shimano  overpriced too?

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lolno. Shimano, just like Daiwa, might be expensive, but they're also the best of the best. Can't really be overpriced when there's nothing better for the same price, let alone something less expensive.

[FrnkNsteen]

I have one of the new Tat100, an original SLX and both the Curado 151 and 71 MGL.

 

I actually like them all for what they are. For a $100 centrifugal braked reel, the SLX is fine. I currently have it on an old 6' Fenwick "Venture" rod throwing Zara Spook. The reel casts great and that short rod length and very short handle work great for walking the dog.

 

Is the SLX as nice as the Curados,... No, but I wouldn't expect a $100 reel to be as good. I WILL say the SLX MGL gives the Curado MGLs a run for their money though!!

 

As for the new Tat100. I just have the one in an 8spd I bought from someone on here. I have it running a buzzbait and I like it for that. The reel frame is much more comfortable than the older Tat100 l, it casts well, and is very smooth. I wouldn't pass on it in the future.

 

 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Tatulas have been good reels for a long time, but I never liked the way they felt in hand.  The way the frame bulged at the front wasnt as comfortable in my hand as most of the Shimano's designs.  The new Tats feel great and by all accounts are improved internally and functionally as well.

SLX is a solid platform, especially at its PP.  Tatula 100 is multiple PPs above the SLX platforms save for the DC, so it should outperform SLX designs in most aspects.  

The Curado line is probably the closest to the Tatula family as far as multiple frame sizes and spool options go.  I'm not as familiar with many of the newer Curados, but as far the 150 MGL and 70 go I think theyre a good product for the $, especially in the case of 150 MGL.

The only thing that makes me hesitate to buy a Tatula is that I know a few people with older models that have gotten rough or had issues after a few years.  The new 100, 100SV and 80 feels so good in hand, Im going to buy one of the of the 3.  I just have to figure out which one to get.

[FryDog62]

I have both a Tatula 100 and Curado 70. In terms of pure casting distance - the Tatula 100 wins that dual easily. That "easier startup inertia" thing that Shimano touts in the MGL reels is over-stated IMO. In all other respects they are similar reels, palmable, quality, etc. 

[Bass Rutten]

7 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

but I never liked the way they felt in hand

The 3rd gen tatula 100 is a whole different animal in terms of ergos compared to the previous gen. I was so impressed with it (ergos and casting performance) I bought a 2nd one in lieu of a zillion for my frogging/buzzbait rod. Long term we'll have to see, but my hopes are high with the new digigear drivetrain and metal sideplate.

[new2BC4bass]

I have all three, but none are current models.  Personally feel it's a stretch to say one is far superior than the other two.  There are several things that can contribute to a reel feeling superior in an individual's mind.  Among them are your casting stroke where one brake type may be a better fit to your style of casting.

 

Were you comparing the reels on the same rod using the same lure and same line?  Line, lure, lure weight, rod length, rod power, etc. can all make a difference in how a reel's performance feels in hand.  Ergonomics bothers some so it can also fit into the equation.

[ABU is overpriced]

7 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Tatulas have been good reels for a long time, but I never liked the way they felt in hand.  The way the frame bulged at the front wasnt as comfortable in my hand as most of the Shimano's designs.  The new Tats feel great and by all accounts are improved internally and functionally as well.

SLX is a solid platform, especially at its PP.  Tatula 100 is multiple PPs above the SLX platforms save for the DC, so it should outperform SLX designs in most aspects.  

The Curado line is probably the closest to the Tatula family as far as multiple frame sizes and spool options go.  I'm not as familiar with many of the newer Curados, but as far the 150 MGL and 70 go I think theyre a good product for the $, especially in the case of 150 MGL.

The only thing that makes me hesitate to buy a Tatula is that I know a few people with older models that have gotten rough or had issues after a few years.  The new 100, 100SV and 80 feels so good in hand, Im going to buy one of the of the 3.  I just have to figure out which one to get.

On Ali, the difference in price between the cheapest SLX and the Tatula is $25. That is extremely close, and not multiple pp above the slx. And if buying from amazon jp, the Tatula is more expensive by $20. The difference in price is so low that even a teenager without any money in the pockets would be able to afford it. In my point of view, both, the SLX and the Curado have been completely dethroned as the best lower end bang per buck reels.

6 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

I have all three, but none are current models.  Personally feel it's a stretch to say one is far superior than the other two.  There are several things that can contribute to a reel feeling superior in an individual's mind.  Among them are your casting stroke where one brake type may be a better fit to your style of casting.

 

Were you comparing the reels on the same rod using the same lure and same line?  Line, lure, lure weight, rod length, rod power, etc. can all make a difference in how a reel's performance feels in hand.  Ergonomics bothers some so it can also fit into the equation.

All three were on medium powered jerkbait rods loaded with the same 20lb braid to a 10lb fluoro leader. Rods were between 6.8 and 6.10". But this shouldn't matter that much because its not exactly the casting distance that has impressed me, its the feel of the reel under load and the way it palmed. It does not feel like a $102 reel from aliexpress. Like NOT AT ALL. So so so far from it.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

22 minutes ago, ABU is overpriced said:

On Ali, the difference in price between the cheapest SLX and the Tatula is $25. That is extremely close, and not multiple pp above the slx. And if buying from amazon jp, the Tatula is more expensive by $20. The difference in price is so low that even a teenager without any money in the pockets would be able to afford it. In my point of view, both, the SLX and the Curado have been completely dethroned as the best lower end bang per buck reels.

I understand what you mean, but using the price of 3rd party vendors is all over the place.  For example, you can get Slammers on sale at Amazon for 99 or 110$ every now and then.  Comparing that to any other reels at the 100$ PP doesn't tell you anything except you got a good deal.    

The Sugg Retail ideally gives you an expectation of performance, quality and tech relative to other reels that company puts out.  Most reels are built or redesigned to fit a predetermined PP that fits its different lines of reels and a PP that is competitive with a rival company's product.    

For whatever reason Shimano's aren't discounted as steeply as Daiwa's on those 3rd party sites.  Those steep discounts arent on every reel.  If I could get 30% of a coastal 80 or a JDM equivalent I would grab one real fast, but they're about the same as digitaka or slightly under retail for USDM exclusive reel.  Im happy about that because if Tatulas were sugg retail everywhere I would just stick with Shimano. 

 

8 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

The 3rd gen tatula 100 is a whole different animal in terms of ergos compared to the previous gen. I was so impressed with it (ergos and casting performance) I bought a 2nd one in lieu of a zillion for my frogging/buzzbait rod. Long term we'll have to see, but my hopes are high with the new digigear drivetrain and metal sideplate.

Absolutely, its whole different platform.  Not that the older gen was bad per se I just didn't care for the shape.  Maybe thats why I was so impressed with the feel of the new 1, since I wasnt crazy about the last gen 100s shape.  Other than the metal sideplate and new frame design, Daiwa super hyper marketing buzzwords dont mean a whole lot to me.  In a few years they will say the reel boxes are made with tough cardboard technology with super cube edges that are 14% pointier than the last generation of boxes.

[Bass Rutten]

11 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Daiwa super hyper marketing buzzwords dont mean a whole lot to me.

I get you and agree their marketing is quite cringey at times, but the "hyper digigear" is the way the gears are machined are the main reason the zillions are crazy smooth and durable.

[dk2429]

I used to be a Daiwa hater too. As of recently, Daiwa or nothing. I got a Tatula Elite to try because it was on sale and it changed my mind. Every real purchase since then has been Daiwa and I plan on snagging a JDM Zillion soon. That Tatula 100 is superb reel and definitely nicer than my SLX XT. Can’t speak for the Curado though 

[ABU is overpriced]

53 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

I understand what you mean, but using the price of 3rd party vendors is all over the place.  For example, you can get Slammers on sale at Amazon for 99 or 110$ every now and then.  Comparing that to any other reels at the 100$ PP doesn't tell you anything except you got a good deal.    

The Sugg Retail ideally gives you an expectation of performance, quality and tech relative to other reels that company puts out.  Most reels are built or redesigned to fit a predetermined PP that fits its different lines of reels and a PP that is competitive with a rival company's product.    

For whatever reason Shimano's aren't discounted as steeply as Daiwa's on those 3rd party sites.  Those steep discounts arent on every reel.  If I could get 30% of a coastal 80 or a JDM equivalent I would grab one real fast, but they're about the same as digitaka or slightly under retail for USDM exclusive reel.  Im happy about that because if Tatulas were sugg retail everywhere I would just stick with Shimano. 

 

Your example is a sale, not the standard price. You can go on ali, amazon jp, or buy directly from japan, and buy these reels for that price, be it now, a week from now, or in a month. There's a reason why the 21 zillion has been considered as the best bang per buck baitcaster currently in production, but only if you buy it from japan like most have done. What i am saying is that if the difference was only $20-25 between the 24 tat 100 vs the slx, but only during a sale, you'd have a point. But that's not the case, and the price is only gonna be dropping from now on. The zillion has been eating Metanium sales, and this tat will do the same to the slx and the curado.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

In the context that you are using "sale," you mean discount.  The vast majority of all 3rd party vendors are selling the product at a discount relative to retail. 

Thats my point, there is no "standard price" with 3rd party retailer.  When buying from a 3rd party vendor, you are mostly likely buying the item at a considerable discount, otherwise you wouldn't be buying it from a 2nd party at retail or slightly under.  There is ballpark price that fluctuates by 10 or 20% in most cases, that's without factoring in economic variables.  In some cases, it can be more.  Take your amazon jp quote for a Tat80, its 70% higher than other 3rd party retailers and higher than sugg retail.  Thats why using it as a comparison to rank a reel doesn't always reflect reality.