Crow Horse Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Like the title says, do you handle the fish you've caught? I don't. I net (rubberized) them and then secure them with a fish grip and they remain in the water while unhooking. My reasoning is that I want to avoid disturbing or compromising it's mucous or slime coat. The slime coat is their first line of defense against infections and parasites. The slime coat has a difficult job considering they live in a bath of fungi, bacteria, parasites, and viruses. Once unhooked they are released. It might sound like it's a bit over the top, but factor in the stress of the fight and it becomes something to consider. Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted 5 hours ago Super User Posted 5 hours ago I handle every fish gently and I've never witnessed any ill effects anywhere including my pond fish. 2 Quote
BigAngus752 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I understand your logic and applaud your care and consideration, but you are aware that we can kill and eat them? Not trying to be a smart-aleck, but if I choose to lip a bass and keep it out of the water for 90 seconds to weigh and take a selfie, it's got a hella better chance than any walleye I catch. I'm not knocking what you choose to do in any way, I'm merely responding to your question. And as for the "bath of fungi, bacteria, parasites, and viruses" they are living in the same water that I ski, swim, and drink and they are much better suited to surviving it than I am. I guess what I'm saying is I just don't feel it's quite a dangerous for them as you feel it is. God made us a hardy lot and he is infallible. Again, you are living your life according to your beliefs and I support it. My wife loves it when I send her the big fish selfies. She keeps a slideshow of them running on her work computer. I'll be sending more. 4 Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted 5 hours ago Super User Posted 5 hours ago I try to be as delicate as possible, and always wet my hands before handling them. I have my camera set up and ready to go to only need a single button push to take a picture when I want one. I keep the process of unhooking and releasing as streamlined as possible. Quote
Crow Horse Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago From a NYS DEC fisheries biologist that I'm in communication with..... ".........any fish that loses its slime layer (for whatever reason) it is susceptible to infection." Quote
Super User WRB Posted 5 hours ago Super User Posted 5 hours ago Can’t land, weigh or measure any fish without “handling” it in some manner. Mishandling a bass is letting the fish get over stressed by keeping it out of the water longer than a minute, letting the bass contact dry surfaces like boat carpet and nylon nets, putting the bass in a livewell etc. Tom 6 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted 4 hours ago Super User Posted 4 hours ago I’ve caught fish that seemed to pour off “slime” and others that exhibited very little, it’s not really your talking point, but I always wondered why that was. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted 4 hours ago Super User Posted 4 hours ago Not judging how other bassheads do it, I 'handle' the bass I catch but with as much care as I can. Using a net, boga grip and a silicone mat to protect the fish (and my boat carpet) best I can. And despite my best efforts, I'd be foolish to think that all of them live through that deal. Truth is, some die. But that's just part of it. A-Jay 2 Quote
Harold H Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago You'll do way more damage cranking on their jaws imo. I love some Bill Dance but good Lord no telling how many bass jaws he's crippled the way he handles them. Smaller fish it's okay, but once they get over 3 lbs it's best to try and lift them straightup and not jack the jaw open. Once the jaw is injured it becomes difficult to feed. I've caught the same bass 3 times out of a pond so I know c&r works if done properly 2 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted 4 hours ago Super User Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Crow Horse said: Like the title says, do you handle the fish you've caught? of course... Quote
Crow Horse Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, F14A-B said: I’ve caught fish that seemed to pour off “slime” and others that exhibited very little, it’s not really your talking point, but I always wondered why that was. It might be something similar to slime coat syndrome, but I'm not sure how that would apply to LMB. Quote
Crow Horse Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, BigAngus752 said: And as for the "bath of fungi, bacteria, parasites, and viruses" they are living in the same water that I ski, swim, and drink and they are much better suited to surviving it than I am. I don't believe that is a valid comparison. We don't ski and swim in the water 24/7 and certainly don't drink from it untreated. Our skin is the first line of defense and that can be compared to a fish's slime coat. If we had a wound in our skin and stayed in the water 24/7, there's a very good chance that the could become infected. I believe that the same possibility exists for fish with damaged slime coats. To be clear, my method of handling fish is not practical to do from a boat. I'm in a yak and much closer to the water than one in a boat. Quote
Kev-mo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I handle them as little as possible. Unfortunately for the fish, I sometimes need to handle them more than I like. Quote
MonsterZero Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, BigAngus752 said: I understand your logic and applaud your care and consideration, but you are aware that we can kill and eat them? Not trying to be a smart-aleck, but if I choose to lip a bass and keep it out of the water for 90 seconds to weigh and take a selfie, it's got a hella better chance than any walleye I catch. I'm not knocking what you choose to do in any way, I'm merely responding to your question. And as for the "bath of fungi, bacteria, parasites, and viruses" they are living in the same water that I ski, swim, and drink and they are much better suited to surviving it than I am. I guess what I'm saying is I just don't feel it's quite a dangerous for them as you feel it is. God made us a hardy lot and he is infallible. Again, you are living your life according to your beliefs and I support it. My wife loves it when I send her the big fish selfies. She keeps a slideshow of them running on her work computer. I'll be sending more. That slime coat is part of what allows the fish to survive so well in such a hostile environment. If we remove that through careless handling, we are directly and considerably reducing that fish's chances of survival. This is documented and proven scientific fact that has been discussed to death. Also, pretty sure religious stuff is specifically against forum rules, no? Plenty of other places for that sort of thing, let us keep it out of fishing. OT: I handle them as little as possible. In a lot of places that I fish, handling them as you do would result in them banging against rocks, sand, dirt, etc. I get them unhooked quickly, a 'Thanks for playing,' and get them right back in the water. I do not even photograph my fish unless there is something special or unique about them. Quote
LootyDjibouti Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Going above and beyond what’s necessary imo but I’m sure those bass fight another day. - Rubberized net - Wet ketch board before measuring - Never place a bass on the ground - Supporting bass’s weight if handling - Release back in water asap - Not letting bass “slide” through your hands on release (I have no data on this but I see it a lot and it seems like it could lead to a slime coat issue) I follow the above and I’d be surprised if these bass have a significant delayed mortality rate. Quote
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