6" and 7" Magdraft/Dainergous/Whale unrigged swimbait rod?

[MediumMouthBass]

I use the Daingerous the most, but picked up some Whales to try. I really love fishing these type of swimbaits but really struggle fishing them with the rods i own. The rod im using for them now is a KVD CC5 (7'4" Heavy - Moderate, rated 1/2-2oz) it does fine for the 6" although it struggles with distance, but feels like it may or may not become a two piece rod after a few casts using the 7". For context the 6" weighs 1.2oz, and the 7" 1.6oz (using what i could find on the internet since i dont have a scale currently). Depending on which swimbait and Owner Beast hook size used the total weight can range from just under 1.5oz low end - just under 2oz high end. The other issue i have with this rod is the moderate action, but it was all i had at the time to use.

 

I know its been talked about on here before, but everything i could find for rod recommendations were $250-300 rods, and only went to 1 1/2-2oz at the highest. Thats way out of my price range, and IMO too low in ratings for me.

 

Ive found 4 rods that might work for me.

#1. Lews KVD GC9 7'6" X-Heavy, X-Fast. 1/2-3oz rating

#2. BPS Crankin Stick 7'10" MH, Fast. 1-4oz rating

#3. Lews Super Duty 7'6" Heavy, Fast. 1-4oz rating

#4. Falcon Expert (Amistad) 7'4" Extra Heavy, Fast. 3/4-3oz rating

 

Anyone use any of these rods for stuff like Magdraft freestyles or similar? If not any other rods i should check out that wont be pushing the rod to its maximum?

[casts_by_fly]

The expert amistad might work.  I used my regular expert amistad for a-rigs (among other things) to just over 2 oz.  It was pushing the rod, but it managed.  The XH is a bit heavier.  But if you're going to do that, have a look at the Cara big bait rod.  7'9", 1-5 oz.  I picked it up for the same things you're describing.  With a 6" magdraft and 3/8 oz owner beast I can see I'm going to like it based on yard casting. I didn't cast the 8" magdraft yet, but I tied it on and flexed it in the house.  2-3 weeks and I'll have it on the water.  I'm confident in it.

[JHoss]

I have the Dobyns Fury Swimbait Casting Rod, which sounds like it would suit your needs and only runs about $130. I'm far from an expert when it comes to big swimbaits, but it was highly recommended and has done fine for me. 

[Bigbox99]

Instead of the cranking stick take a look at the carbonlite glidebait.

[WRB]

You cast the 1 1/4 oz 6” swimbaits being discussed with MHF rod but setting the hook into a basses mouth full of soft plastic is questionable. The line thru Cull Shad is your best choice. If you need weedless then the 6” Cull Shad w/ Owner Beast hook 1/4 oz, 6/0.

suggest buying both.

Tom

[MediumMouthBass]

3 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

Instead of the cranking stick take a look at the carbonlite glidebait.

Im actually planning on pickup one of these up for treble hooked swimbaits and glides, i love the rod and would buy a 2nd for these if they offered it in a non moderate action. It would definitely work, but i think i would like a fast or extra fast much more for these big single hooks buried into plastic.

 

3 hours ago, JHoss said:

I have the Dobyns Fury Swimbait Casting Rod, which sounds like it would suit your needs and only runs about $130

Im a big Dobyns fan, and have wanted the 795 and 806 for awhile but the ones ive looked at where just a bit too parabolic for me.

 

3 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

have a look at the Cara big bait rod.  7'9", 1-5 oz.  I picked it up for the same things you're describing.  With a 6" magdraft and 3/8 oz owner beast I can see I'm going to like it based on yard casting. I didn't cast the 8" magdraft yet, but I tied it on and flexed it in the house.  2-3 weeks and I'll have it on the water.  I'm confident in it.

Will definitely add this to the list of rods to checkout, did it seem like the 6" with the 3/8 Beast in any way was too light for the rod since its rated to 5oz?

[Dwight Hottle]

@MediumMouthBass Are you using braid or mono for line? A moderate or moderate fast with braid will get the job done with hook sets on single hook plastic baits. If your using mono then you want a fast action rod. The moderate action rods do well with treble hook baits like glides & swim baits. 

[MediumMouthBass]

3 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

Are you using braid or mono for line?

15-20lb Yo Zuri Hybrid or Berkley Big Game mono.

 

3 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

A moderate or moderate fast with braid will get the job done with hook sets on single hook plastic baits. If your using mono then you want a fast action rod. The moderate action rods do well with treble hook baits like glides & swim baits. 

Thanks for the info, ill have to try this with the rod ive currently got. If it works ill keep the rod for the 6" and fish it in grass. And then buy a bigger bait rod a month from now and have a 2nd rod for those 7" ones.

[casts_by_fly]

9 hours ago, MediumMouthBass said:

 

 

Will definitely add this to the list of rods to checkout, did it seem like the 6" with the 3/8 Beast in any way was too light for the rod since its rated to 5oz?

not in any way. I was a little worried about that when I ordered it but definitely not the case. 

[rangerjockey]

Might want to check out the Phenix feather. You will have to step up to the XH power but for $130 or so it's a great buy. Otherwise the Dobyns 795 is the way to go and you will have a good A-rig rod also.

[webertime]

Sierra Trading Post has Douglas LRS 76 and 74 swimbait rods for 100 normally 200.  The 20-30lb line rating are them (don't show lure rating).  I played with them a a fishing show and they are nice.  They'd be great for this application.  FYI lures are 1-4oz.  I'd have grabbed one if I needed it.

[WRB]

If you want casting distance with medium size swimbaits save yourself a lot of time and anguish get a swimbait rod designed for this purpose.

I used IROD IRG 783SB successfully for years fishing 1 1/2- 2 1/4 oz swimbaits.

Tried Okuma GS swimbait rods before changing to the specific IROD above.

Today it’s a gen 111 $150.

Tom

[wolfe_ohara]

I quite enjoy my irod 783sb. it works well with soft plastics, and is moderate enough that i felt comfortable using it for wakes and treble hooked swimbaits as well. I found the fury swimbait rods to be a little too moderate for jig/beast hooks. I have, and use the bps carbonlite glidebait rod and am going to be buying another one during their sale. I appreciate the moderate action, handle length, and the way the rod handles lures through the listed range.