Zillion knob solution

[bulldog1935]

@little giant - the only reason I could justify the SB - intended as an offshore jigging handle - was because I could swap-in the smaller fortissimo knob - I had a place for the 37-mm Livre knob that came from the SB on my low-geared jigging reel.  

[newapti5]

3 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

@newapti5 in LP reels, 6- and even 7-geared, 90-mm is just right for me.  

But when you get to smaller spools and lower gears, you need shorter handles to have control of line pick-up so fish don't out-charge you - you spin a short handle with more wrist, crank a long handle with more forearm.  

 

With the 8-geared Super Duty, everything about jerkbait presentation improved with the Livre SB (55-mm pitch, equiv to 110-mm dia).  Could count the fish-rate improvement.  

 

I do agree on a slow jerkbait reel. My favorite jerkbait reel is a 5 gear ratio Daiwa SS SV. But with today's 8 speed reels, I honestly don't feel the need to wind super fast nowadays.

[GReb]

I’m in the minority but I like the i shape knobs. However the material is not the same quality as shimano. They get slick and knicked up way too easy 

[bulldog1935]

@newapti5  I have a place for those fast reels.  

It's drift-fishing a kayak (with sock) in coast wind up to 20+ kts.  

Here, I just staked my boat to get out and land the redfish I hooked up - to keep him out of my drift sock rigging,

and to keep my boat from blowing across the flat if I lifted the drift sock.  

 

In lighter wind, a 7-geared reel is just right, and we fish a lot of calm sloughs, also.  

[FrnkNsteen]

16 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

hmmm

IOS makes the part - a little red loctite, and SLP Works handle works on Stradic 

as far as using Shimano A  knob on Daiwa S spindle, it takes adding an extra bearing or a bearing-size bushing.  Shouldn't be news that these knobs interchange - all aftermarket knobs come with the plastic bushing ("collar") for Daiwa - leave it out for Shimano.  .  

   

That's it @bulldog1935. That step you showed in the image was what Tackle Advisors was referring to that was different between the two and needed to be addressed. I didn't know that some knob makers included a shim. 

[bulldog1935]

@FrnkNsteen - where I've used common Daiwa-S/Shimano-A knob on Daiwa handle, I just throw in a third 740Z bearing and 0.2-mm shim washer.  

Since I mentioned IOS SD adapter shaft on first post, IOS also makes hex-shaft adapter that lets you use fixed Daiwa handles on hex-shaft reels.  

 

@Bigbox99 the bushings and the bearings are the same size.  They should never need thinning - just adjust the stack height with shim washers, which come in 0.5-mm and 0.2-mm thickness

from bottom for Daiwa:  shim; bushing (or bearing); shim; bearing; enough shims to dial out knob end-play.  

for Shimano, leave out the first bearing or bushing and 2nd shim.  

Also with a Daiwa SLPW knob, leave out the first bearing or bushing and 2nd shim.  

 

[Bigbox99]

You can also repurpose the Daiwa plastic knob bushing as a spacer if needed.  If it's too tall a bit of back and forth on some sand paper can fix that.  I've done that before.