Casting Reel for Frogs and Small Swimbaits

[Brett's_daddy]

I’m looking at the Daiwa Tatula SV TW 150 and the Shimano Curado MGL 150 for throwing hollow body frogs and small to medium swimbaits/glide baits in the 1-3oz range…would one be better than the other? Is there another 150 sized reel that would be better than one of these two?

[MediumMouthBass]

Neither.

 

I have a Tatula 150, its great for casting frogs but i use it for swimbaits. It feels overwhelmed past 2oz. Im going to replace it with a Curado K or M which from what ive read on other forums is a more capable reel past 2oz. I do plan on picking up a 150 SV though for skipping 6" Magdrafts, but in my experience a over braked Daiwa + an oem SV spool not made for lighter baits specifically is a disaster for anything light weight like a hollowbody frog, especially if you want distance.

 

The 150 sized Curado will get smoked, i might be wrong but arent these more geared towards lighter lures?

 

I would get a suggest a Tatula 200 or Curado 200, both are in that mid size range where you can throw those 1-3oz swimbaits, but the Tatula/Curado depending on what model/spool youd still be able to cast those frogs. (PS the 200 Tat is on the same frame as the Tat 150, and Shimano sizes their reels up, EX the 150 is a 100 for any other brand)

[dk2429]

Tatula 100 or Tatula Elite. You can get the Elite on Amazon for $168 right now 

[casts_by_fly]

3 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said:

I’m looking at the Daiwa Tatula SV TW 150 and the Shimano Curado MGL 150 for throwing hollow body frogs and small to medium swimbaits/glide baits in the 1-3oz range…would one be better than the other? Is there another 150 sized reel that would be better than one of these two?

a bantam. If you were planning on buying usdm for the curado then get the jdm bantam and be done with it. 

[webertime]

Dude (hope you're doing well/better).

 

So a 150 ain't a 150 between brands.  Daiwa's Tatula 150 is the same frame etc as the Tatula 200.

The 200 has roughly the same capacity etc as Shimano's 300 size. Although the Shimano feels a little more "tankish".

Confused yet?   

So in effect the Tatula 150 is just a lower capacity 200, but structurally the same.

A Shimano 150 or 200 is like a level smaller capacity wise.

A Shimano 200 is not even remotely close to a Tatula 200...  The notion that they are comparable is laughable.

 

I throw swimbaits up to 3 oz with a 15? year old Shimano Citica 201 E.

2-5oz rod has a Daiwa Catalina TWS (sort of 150 size)

4-8oz rod has a Tatula 200.

Never an issue with any of them up to 7lb bass and several big Pike and Musky. 

 

The idea that the weight of a bait will destroy a reel makes no sense and sort of a flat earth mentality.  Your thumb supports the spool when getting ready to cast, the bearings support during.  None of the internal parts get any wear in those steps of the process.  The bait lands, reel engaged...  now you are reeling in the bait.  (Sort of a rhetorical question coming up) What freakin' bait are you reeling in that has more resistance than a fighting 4lb bass?  To be clearer, no bait strains a reel upon retrieve more than the strain it experiences when fighting even a 1lb fish, let alone a 5 or 10...  if a bait wears a reel out then our reels would last a couple fish then need to be replaced. 

 

Now if you early engage or don't fully disengage the reel on a cast or pull snags without thumbing the spool (bends axle or reforms the spool) then yeah the reel breaks but that's not because of the reel or lure.

 

Get the Daiwa 150 OR a Curado 200 and you'll be fine.

[Bigbox99]

19 hours ago, webertime said:

Dude (hope you're doing well/better).

 

So a 150 ain't a 150 between brands.  Daiwa's Tatula 150 is the same frame etc as the Tatula 200.

The 200 has roughly the same capacity etc as Shimano's 300 size. Although the Shimano feels a little more "tankish".

Confused yet?   

So in effect the Tatula 150 is just a lower capacity 200, but structurally the same.

A Shimano 150 or 200 is like a level smaller capacity wise.

A Shimano 200 is not even remotely close to a Tatula 200...  The notion that they are comparable is laughable.

 

I throw swimbaits up to 3 oz with a 15? year old Shimano Citica 201 E.

2-5oz rod has a Daiwa Catalina TWS (sort of 150 size)

4-8oz rod has a Tatula 200.

Never an issue with any of them up to 7lb bass and several big Pike and Musky. 

 

The idea that the weight of a bait will destroy a reel makes no sense and sort of a flat earth mentality.  Your thumb supports the spool when getting ready to cast, the bearings support during.  None of the internal parts get any wear in those steps of the process.  The bait lands, reel engaged...  now you are reeling in the bait.  (Sort of a rhetorical question coming up) What freakin' bait are you reeling in that has more resistance than a fighting 4lb bass?  To be clearer, no bait strains a reel upon retrieve more than the strain it experiences when fighting even a 1lb fish, let alone a 5 or 10...  if a bait wears a reel out then our reels would last a couple fish then need to be replaced. 

 

Now if you early engage or don't fully disengage the reel on a cast or pull snags without thumbing the spool (bends axle or reforms the spool) then yeah the reel breaks but that's not because of the reel or lure.

 

Get the Daiwa 150 OR a Curado 200 and you'll be fine.

Correct but he is talking about the 150 SV which is the Tatula CT platform with the deep SV spool from the Coastal 150 SV.  They also added hyper gears to it as well.  Kind of a Daiwa parts mash up reel but it seems well received and should be exactly what the OP wants.

 

Here is sort of a initials impressions for anglers that have the reel.  That fish was caught by one of them using the reel as a swimbait reel.  Apparently the BPS Carbon Lite swimbait rod is legit good value too.  

http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=88959&start=195

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Thats a tough one because you want a lower ratio for the bigger swimbaits in a 150 size, but you want some speed for throwing frogs.

What kind of line are you using?

[Brett's_daddy]

Would a Shimano Bantam MGL with Infinitidrive work well? Forgot that I’m downsizing my setups and selling off about 4 rods so I’m going to have more reels than rods. I’m thinking of running straight 50lb braid for frogging and tying on a mono leader for swim baits .

[FishTank]

JDM Zillion HD. It has plenty of power and can handle bigger baits. 

[casts_by_fly]

3 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said:

Would a Shimano Bantam MGL with Infinitidrive work well? Forgot that I’m downsizing my setups and selling off about 4 rods so I’m going to have more reels than rods. I’m thinking of running straight 50lb braid for frogging and tying on a mono leader for swim baits .

yes.