Reel/Line for an Orochi XX jerkbait special?

[Puggz]

I do have an affinity for unique equipment and this caught my eye -> Silver Wolf

 

Thoughts?

 

P.

[Eric 26]

@bulldog1935 Has one that he’s used a couple seasons so maybe he’ll chime in.

[FishTank]

I have one. It's an odd reel to me. It's designed according to Daiwa for #0.6 to #1.0 PE and bream fishing. I have had various issues with mine since day one, including backlashes for no reason. I found one bad spool bearing on it and replaced it. We will see how it goes. 

 

Also, a couple of side notes on this reel. First,  it's not a BFS reel despite the shallow spool.  I got it directly from Daiwa after a few emails ... 7g and up. Second, thin PE is it on line. I tried several alternatives including FC and mono. I also tried 1.5 PE and it too was almost unmanageable.  

 

 

[casts_by_fly]

I mean, if you like odd stuff then sure.  But for me I'd save $50 and just get the zillion with the same physical profile if you like Daiwa.  I prefer shimano and would (and have just done again) go metanium for what you're saying, but that's not exactly a 'unique' reel.  

[F14A-B]

I looked at one last week and because it’s designed for very small diameter braid and that’s a no go for me, I just bought a second 1000HD. 
 

Good luck finding what ya want..

[bulldog1935]

actually, Daiwa is talking about Black Sea Bream (Kurodai) - the stuff of sushi

 

size and shoulders compare to redfish and black drum

 

Silver Wolf is a magsealed Zillion with increased LW pitch to allow fishing threadline braid down to PE#0.4 without line dig.  The stock 1000S SV Boost spool has working capacity for 10-lb fluoro - the spool capacity is greater than Daiwa rates it.    You can't find a better choice for 20- to 30-lb braid.  It will cast an extreme weight range of 3 g to 1 oz.  

@Tennessee Boy has a couple of these and likes them as well as I do.  

It's a workhorse reel.  

[Bigbox99]

I would get a normal Zillion and run 12 pound fluoro so I could also fish soft plastic jerkbaits and weightless worms later in the year.  

[F14A-B]

14 hours ago, Puggz said:

I do have an affinity for unique equipment and this caught my eye -> Silver Wolf

 

Thoughts?

 

P.

Another option is the Shimano Metanium Shallow Spool edition. It’s an awesome caster with a custom spool out of the box. It handles light mono, co-poly or even braided lines extremely well. I have one I use with a GLX 892 J&W rod. The braking system is custom engineered for weights of 3/16 to 3/8 ounce. To me, it’s a perfect plug and play reel for your needs. I will say so far, my Zillion 1000 HD reels X 2 are very well engineered although these out of the box are power fishing reels but they can be manipulated to fish lighter weights by changing spools and probably an 80 to 90 mm handle. 

[FishTank]

For unique, I have been throwing jerkbaits on a Shimano Calcutta Conquest 31 Shallow Spool.  I really like it so far but line capacity could be an issue if you use something above 12lb FC. I have been using 10lb. It's a fun reel but it's not as buttery smooth as the 101 Conquest I have. I have yet to figure out why. Still really smooth and cast well though.  Plus, it fits my hands a certain way that works great for jerkbaits.

 

[webertime]

Can't add more about the reel.  But...  line I use 8lb tatsu and yzh.  Pike will bite through 16lb as easily as 8 but you get more distance and better action on 8lb.  It's weird I know but I notice no sensitivity difference between the 2 lines I mentioned.  Using it on a Legend Xtreme with an OG Steez.

[FishTank]

For unique, I have been throwing jerkbaits on a Shimano Calcutta Conquest 31 Shallow Spool.  I really like it so far but line capacity could be an issue if use something above 12lb FC. I have been using 10lb FC Seaguar R18 LTD. It's a fun reel but it's not as buttery smooth as the 101 Conquest I have. I have yet to figure out why. Still really smooth and cast well though.  Plus, it fits my hands a certain way that works great for jerkbaits.

 

[FryDog62]

Jerkbaits can be a tougher lure to cast and get distance at times, especially in wind. I try to avoid any SV spool for that reason with jerkbaits, although I’ve never used the Silver Wolf. 
 

I like to be able to get maximum distance, especially in clear water, and the Tatula Elite works great paired with 10-12 lb Tatsu or Invizx. An 8.1 gear ratio is great for picking up line between jerks.. 

[F14A-B]

9 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

Jerkbaits can be a tougher lure to cast and get distance at times, especially in wind. I try to avoid any SV spool for that reason with jerkbaits, although I’ve never used the Silver Wolf. 
 

I like to be able to get maximum distance, especially in clear water, and the Tatula Elite works great paired with 10-12 lb Tatsu or Invizx. An 8.1 gear ratio is great for picking up line between jerks.. 

Not a fan of the SV at all, the first Daiwa I tried was an SV spool model. 
(since the Daiwa OG Zillion of 2003) 

 

Took it straight back. But the MagZ with boost is awesome…

[bulldog1935]

I'm a huge SV fan, because so much time priortizing 1/8-oz lures inshore - the light weight keeps them in the zone above the grass, where heavier lures would drag up grass every cast.  As the bottom drops, I move to heavier weights, also big topwaters and suspending jerkbaits for winter.  

Two main differences between SV and MagZ are magnet strength and inductor mass.  SV uses stronger magnets and lighter inductor mass, MagZ magnets are slightly weaker and the inductor is thicker and heavier.  

 

This plays out as SV casts lighter weights farther beginning at 3 g, MagZ casts heavier weights farther beginning at 7 g.  Both use a similar principle of moving inductor for start-up nonlinear brake.  

SV Boost changes the early nonlinear-brake profile.  A soft spring lets the inductor move halfway and retracts slowly, a stiffer spring moves the second half and retracts quickly.  This gives the SV Boost better distance casting heavy weights than SV brake with one "average" return spring biased toward lighter weights.  

 

I have MagZ magnets in SLPW-Zillion (based on '22 HD) and also '18 Ryoga, which fish new BFS spools about the same as SV, maybe an extra linear mag notch or 2.  

I have the older generation of MagZ magnets in CV-Z.  There's a big difference between the older magnets and the newer generation of both MagZ and SV magnets - I found the older MagZ magnets unreliable casting below 9 g.  (Though I found a very sweet spot casting 3 g on CV-Z with linear-mag fixed-inductor).  

 

[MRQturbo]

6 or 7 gear ratio shimano.. 12lb sunline sniper... What I use for all my cranking duties 

[Puggz]

Thanks everyone, really enjoy the discussion.  I'm starting to think that the SW is too niche for me so I'll be going with a Met HG. A reel I love and something I can use for various techniques.