MediumMouthBass Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Please give me any feedback if you own these reels and use them for what i mentioned, or if you have any suggestions for a different reel that would do a better job for what i am looking to do with them. (Im open to recommendations from any brand if you know of a better option, my only preferences are a durable, high quality made reel, with an aluminum frame) Daiwa Tatula 200 (2025 version), or Daiwa Zillion HD. For 1-4oz swimbaits and glides. Im leaning towards the Daiwa Tatula 200 (25) because i like the new redesign and the "long cast" concept Daiwa says they added, and i know my Tatula 150 can handle these weights. So if that can i know the 200 will. But if the Zillion HD can handle casting these heavier baits over and over again id probably just spend the extra 40 bucks or so on it instead. Whats the biggest you guys have thrown on the Zillion HD's? Or will it not be able to take it in the long run? Daiwa Tatula 150 SV TW, Tatula SV150 Kage edition, or the Shimano Curado K/M, one of these would be to upgrade my last gen Tatula 150 for casting 1-3oz swimbaits. I dont love the shape or design of my last gen Tatula 150, like the new 200 i really think id enjoy the new design better. But i dont want to buy another Tatula 150 if theres no significant upgrade aside from a redesign. So the 150 with the SV spool or the Kage id say theres plenty of differences to do so. The Kage specifically looks amazing for a factory reel out of the box, but id go with whatever Tatula 150SV i could get a deal on. I also like the Curado K and M too, and heard they handle 1-3oz baits great as well. In the past i wasnt to fond of the SV spool in my Tatula SV TW 103, it didnt cast very far. But it skipped great, and the casts were very controlled. I think the downfall of the SV spool for me then may be my salvation now as it would make skipping Magdraft freestyles under stuff easier and also keep some of my backlash prone hard swim/glidebaits in check. But i dont know enough about Curados to dismiss them already, how are the Curados for bigger baits? Distance, ease of cast, backlash easily on non aerodynamic stuff? Daiwa Tatula 100 (2024 version), this would be to replace Fuego CT, for more so heavy duty applications like swimjigs/chatterbaits in grass, flipping, spinnerbaits, frogging. I love my Fuego CT, i really do. Im big on colors and accents so the black and red really works for me but i just cant justify the price. A new 100 from Japan costs about $4 less and from what ive heard is a far better reel than that and the Tatula CT too. Shimano SLX DC XT? Not even sure what this reel is for or what it will do good/excel at but i know i want it. My 2 favorite Shimanos are the SLX MGL 70 and SLX XT, but finding the last gens for sale at the right ratio, in left hand, for the right price is almost impossible now. The new SLX 70 and SLX XT A are getting poor reviews and i really dont like their new colors so those will be a pass for me. The only thing in Shimanos lineup that calls out to me is this reel, not even sure why? But it looks phenomenal. What would this reel be good at? Would it be similar to my XT or better? Is it a finesse reel, all purpose? Anyone have info or even own one? Theres not much on them. Daiwa Tatula 100 SV TW (25 SV TW for Japan), an alternative to the Zillion. My Zillion had a rocky start with me, i didnt like it at all at first. Now ive come to love it since i found its place in my lineup, but i dont think its worth $220. Its a little smaller in size than i would like since im used to to 100 (150 Shimano) reels, but i can fish with and enjoy time on the water with it now on certain rods. I think the Tatula 100 SV is more aligned with my needs and hands and is much cheaper. Heard from multiple people it casted 1/8-1/4 baits out of the box without needing an aftermarket spool very well, so this would more so be a reel for jerkbaits, flat side cranks, and lighter soft plastics in that 1/4-5/8oz range. Unsure what to pick for an all purpose reel. I usually use Tatula CT's, and like the Fuego i love them but the price is too high for whats available on JDM stores, plus they are kind of getting old and boring to me. Mainly looking for a reel to fish 1/2oz lipless cranks, 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits, 1/2-5/8oz jerkbaits with a weight transfer system, 1/8-1/2oz Texas rigs, and 3/8-1/2oz swim jigs + football jigs. I was thinking about the Tatula 80? I know its a bit more geared towards more finesse baits but heard it palms better than any other reel and can handle bigger baits as well, is this true? Lasty a long distance casting reel. I love my Tatula CT and BB1 Pro for this exact thing. But id like something new to go along with them. What else is on the market aside from them? Was looking at the Tatula Elite, is this the only other option? Quote
Super User FishTank Posted February 18 Super User Posted February 18 Going in order of what you have above Zillion HD - Good pick but for 4oz baits, if you use 20lb line or heavier, the Tranx 200 or Scorpion MD would be my pick. Zillion HD - perfect for 1-3 oz baits Steez AII - you're going to need something with more power and line capacity Metanium 100 JDM - skip the DC reel. This will cast a mile Calcutta Conquest 100 - it will last a lifetime. Casts well, super smooth and BFS sized. Pricey but worth it. Antares or Metanium 100 JDM - I have the BB1 and these two will out cast it by a mile. 2 Quote
softwateronly Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I'll 2nd @FishTank, my zillion hd on a mb tb feels near it's limit at a 8" 3.5oz spoon. Might be more the rod than the reel, but that's basically my self imposed limit. I have 50lb power pro v2 spooled up on it still. scott Quote
Fishingmickey Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I'll third FishTank, Zillion HD, Bantam or Metanium. FM Quote
Bigbox99 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 13 hours ago, MediumMouthBass said: Please give me any feedback if you own these reels and use them for what i mentioned, or if you have any suggestions for a different reel that would do a better job for what i am looking to do with them. (Im open to recommendations from any brand if you know of a better option, my only preferences are a durable, high quality made reel, with an aluminum frame) Daiwa Tatula 200 (2025 version), or Daiwa Zillion HD. For 1-4oz swimbaits and glides. Im leaning towards the Daiwa Tatula 200 (25) because i like the new redesign and the "long cast" concept Daiwa says they added, and i know my Tatula 150 can handle these weights. So if that can i know the 200 will. But if the Zillion HD can handle casting these heavier baits over and over again id probably just spend the extra 40 bucks or so on it instead. Whats the biggest you guys have thrown on the Zillion HD's? Or will it not be able to take it in the long run? Daiwa Tatula 150 SV TW, Tatula SV150 Kage edition, or the Shimano Curado K/M, one of these would be to upgrade my last gen Tatula 150 for casting 1-3oz swimbaits. I dont love the shape or design of my last gen Tatula 150, like the new 200 i really think id enjoy the new design better. But i dont want to buy another Tatula 150 if theres no significant upgrade aside from a redesign. So the 150 with the SV spool or the Kage id say theres plenty of differences to do so. The Kage specifically looks amazing for a factory reel out of the box, but id go with whatever Tatula 150SV i could get a deal on. I also like the Curado K and M too, and heard they handle 1-3oz baits great as well. In the past i wasnt to fond of the SV spool in my Tatula SV TW 103, it didnt cast very far. But it skipped great, and the casts were very controlled. I think the downfall of the SV spool for me then may be my salvation now as it would make skipping Magdraft freestyles under stuff easier and also keep some of my backlash prone hard swim/glidebaits in check. But i dont know enough about Curados to dismiss them already, how are the Curados for bigger baits? Distance, ease of cast, backlash easily on non aerodynamic stuff? Daiwa Tatula 100 (2024 version), this would be to replace Fuego CT, for more so heavy duty applications like swimjigs/chatterbaits in grass, flipping, spinnerbaits, frogging. I love my Fuego CT, i really do. Im big on colors and accents so the black and red really works for me but i just cant justify the price. A new 100 from Japan costs about $4 less and from what ive heard is a far better reel than that and the Tatula CT too. Shimano SLX DC XT? Not even sure what this reel is for or what it will do good/excel at but i know i want it. My 2 favorite Shimanos are the SLX MGL 70 and SLX XT, but finding the last gens for sale at the right ratio, in left hand, for the right price is almost impossible now. The new SLX 70 and SLX XT A are getting poor reviews and i really dont like their new colors so those will be a pass for me. The only thing in Shimanos lineup that calls out to me is this reel, not even sure why? But it looks phenomenal. What would this reel be good at? Would it be similar to my XT or better? Is it a finesse reel, all purpose? Anyone have info or even own one? Theres not much on them. Daiwa Tatula 100 SV TW (25 SV TW for Japan), an alternative to the Zillion. My Zillion had a rocky start with me, i didnt like it at all at first. Now ive come to love it since i found its place in my lineup, but i dont think its worth $220. Its a little smaller in size than i would like since im used to to 100 (150 Shimano) reels, but i can fish with and enjoy time on the water with it now on certain rods. I think the Tatula 100 SV is more aligned with my needs and hands and is much cheaper. Heard from multiple people it casted 1/8-1/4 baits out of the box without needing an aftermarket spool very well, so this would more so be a reel for jerkbaits, flat side cranks, and lighter soft plastics in that 1/4-5/8oz range. Unsure what to pick for an all purpose reel. I usually use Tatula CT's, and like the Fuego i love them but the price is too high for whats available on JDM stores, plus they are kind of getting old and boring to me. Mainly looking for a reel to fish 1/2oz lipless cranks, 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits, 1/2-5/8oz jerkbaits with a weight transfer system, 1/8-1/2oz Texas rigs, and 3/8-1/2oz swim jigs + football jigs. I was thinking about the Tatula 80? I know its a bit more geared towards more finesse baits but heard it palms better than any other reel and can handle bigger baits as well, is this true? Lasty a long distance casting reel. I love my Tatula CT and BB1 Pro for this exact thing. But id like something new to go along with them. What else is on the market aside from them? Was looking at the Tatula Elite, is this the only other option? You can put a Tatula Elite long cast spool in your Tatula or Fuego CT if you want for $45. https://tackletrap.com/products/daiwa-tatula-elite-long-cast-spool-assembly Quote
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