Gear ratio vs line pick up per turn?

[bugman]

I was reading that gear ratio is not always the best way to determin how fast a reel can bring in line. Is it true that some baitcasting reels with lower ratios can bring in line faster than a reels with a higher gear ratio? If so what reel make/model has the fastest ability to bring in line? Also what lures do you like to use ultra fast reels for?

[Raul]

Is it true that some baitcasting reels with lower ratios can bring in line faster than a reels with a higher gear ratio?

Yes it is true, I 've said it in numerous ocassions but apparently nobody pays attention to it.

If so what reel make/model has the fastest ability to bring in line?

Many spinning reels are faster than any "burner" baitcaster.

Also what lures do you like to use ultra fast reels for?

I want fast reels for target fishing so I can get my bait back ASAP to cast again to the same target or to another target,

I want fast reels to pick up the slack line ASAP like when worm/ jig fishing, prop, pop & walk the dog baits, for jerkbaiting.

Lipless cranks can be fished with fast reels when you need it because they don 't roll on their side like lipped cranks do.

[Grey Wolf]

Always check the IPT (inches per turn) on the reels , it will give you more of a true picture of the speed of the reel.

[bugman]

Thanks for the information. When I look up reels on line I don't see any info about IPT only gear ratio. Would I be correct to assume that reels with larger spools and higher ratios will have the fastest IPT? Is there something else I should be adding to the formula?

[Grey Wolf]

Bass Pro Shops on line or their catalog tells you the line recovery per turn.

It is listed as line rec.

[Marty]

Thanks for the information. When I look up reels on line I don't see any info about IPT only gear ratio. Would I be correct to assume that reels with larger spools and higher ratios will have the fastest IPT? Is there something else I should be adding to the formula?

IPT can be hard to come by outside of the BPS catalog. As far as I know, spool size and ratio are the only two factors. Unless you also want to consider that the less line on the spool, the less the IPT. So if you make a real long cast and retrieve at a constant speed, the IPT increases steadily during the retrieve. As to whether the difference is significant, I don't know.

[bugman]

Thanks for the info about line rec. I went to BPS online and did some homework.

Here is what I found.

1. BPS Johnny Morris signature, 7.1:1 31" rec $180.00

2. BPS Rick Clunn signature, 7.1:1 31" rec $100.00

3. Browning fishing Midas, 7.1:1 31" rec $150.00

4. Browning fishing Medallion GT 7.1:1 31 rec $80.00

5. Abu Garcia Revo stx-hs 7.1:1 31 rec $200.00

6. Abu Garcia Ambass 5600 (round) 6.4:1 30.9" rec $170.00

7. Quantum Tour Editon 7.1:1 28" rec $240.00

8. Quantum Accurist PT 6.2:1 23" $130.00

9. Shimano Curado D cu200DHSV 7:1 30" rec $200.00

10. Shimano Calais 4x8 7:1 31" rec $650.00

11. Shimano Chronarch Mg 6.2:1 25" rec $250.00

12. Pflueger Supreme 6.3"1 28" rec $170.00

13. Team Daiwa Zillion 7.1:1 31" rec $250.00

14. Team Daiwa Steez 6.3:1 26" rec $450.00

My conclusion:

All reels that have a 7:1 ratio but the Quantum Tour Edition (28" IPT) will have the fastest IPT.

Reels that are in the 6:1 range will vary the most in IPT.

Price dose not have anything to do with IPT

Also I checked into spinning reels and it seems that you have to get into the 3000 to 4000 size range to get much faster IPT.

I hope this help out when you are looking to buy a "Burner"

Gary

(bugman)

[justfishin]

Wow bugman, I have to give you a  A+ for doing a great job on your homework. It annoys me that some of the cat. don't include line recovery in their advertising. Two things that are important to me---reel purchase****line recovery, rod purchase****action of rod as in moderate, fast or extra fast. I think these two specifics should always be included.

[lubina]

Raul, do you know the IPT of the Scorpions, 1000 and MG ?

Thanks.

Nice job Bugman

[Chris at Tech]

Several of the 2500 size Shimanos have 33 IPT, like the Stradic and the Sahara.

[Raul]

Raul, do you know the IPT of the Scorpions, 1000 and MG ?

Thanks.

Nice job Bugman

I posted that information about IPT 's .... it must be around page 177  :

The IPT in the Scorpion 1000/1001, Scorpion 1000/1001 Mg is 25".

[lubina]

Raul, do you know the IPT of the Scorpions, 1000 and MG ?

Thanks.

Nice job Bugman

I posted that information about IPT 's .... it must be around page 177  :

The IPT in the Scorpion 1000/1001, Scorpion 1000/1001 Mg is 25".

Sorry I didn't know it was posted before.

Thanks a lot..........