woolleyfooley Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just curious, but what makes a reel a good “chuck and wind” reel as opposed to a bottom contact reel? Couldn’t it be used for both? Quote
woolleyfooley Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/25/2025 at 7:59 PM, woolleyfooley said: Just curious, but what makes a reel a good “chuck and wind” reel as opposed to a bottom contact reel? Couldn’t it be used for both? Anybody? Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted January 30 Posted January 30 For me,... A "Chuck and Wind" reel are typically my smoothest reel. If I am going to be spending all day casting and reeling things like spinnerbaits, crankbaits, etc, I want them to be my smoothest reels. I can live with a lesser reel for bottom contact, pitching or other techniques, but if I am constantly reeling, I want something smooth so I can feel any little change in the feel of the lure, like something swiping at it. My smoothest reels right now are probably my Zillion SV and my Bantam. One is on my favorite crankbait rod and the other is in my MiniMax rod. Next is probably my old TDZ and Curado E7 on my Spinnerbait rods 3 Quote
Bigbox99 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 14 hours ago, woolleyfooley said: Anybody? I like aluminum frame and aluminum side plate reels with smooth gearing for winding in high resistance baits. Any frame materials that allow for more flex than aluminum can cause a loss of winding power when the under load such as a fish or the bait is balled up in weeds. It won't stop you from bringing in fish but the drop in power is noticeable compared to a more solid reel. Its not a performance issue. I just find it unpleasant. I also like reels with a more distance orientated braking profile and a TWS or cone level wind to allow non braid to flow out easily on bomb casts. For jig and plastics I like a lighter reel that may be less solid feeling under load but I'm going to be spending my time using the rod to move the bait rather than the reel hande and that lighter weight reel ideally also in a smaller form factor is preferable. A more control orientated braking profile is also preferred since I will be skipping baits under docks and low handing branches. 2 Quote
woolleyfooley Posted January 30 Posted January 30 8 hours ago, FrnkNsteen said: For me,... A "Chuck and Wind" reel are typically my smoothest reel. If I am going to be spending all day casting and reeling things like spinnerbaits, crankbaits, etc, I want them to be my smoothest reels. I can live with a lesser reel for bottom contact, pitching or other techniques, but if I am constantly reeling, I want something smooth so I can feel any little change in the feel of the lure, like something swiping at it. My smoothest reels right now are probably my Zillion SV and my Bantam. One is on my favorite crankbait rod and the other is in my MiniMax rod. Next is probably my old TDZ and Curado E7 on my Spinnerbait rods 7 hours ago, Bigbox99 said: I like aluminum frame and aluminum side plate reels with smooth gearing for winding in high resistance baits. Any frame materials that allow for more flex than aluminum can cause a loss of winding power when the under load such as a fish or the bait is balled up in weeds. It won't stop you from bringing in fish but the drop in power is noticeable compared to a more solid reel. Its not a performance issue. I just find it unpleasant. I also like reels with a more distance orientated braking profile and a TWS or cone level wind to allow non braid to flow out easily on bomb casts. For jig and plastics I like a lighter reel that may be less solid feeling under load but I'm going to be spending my time using the rod to move the bait rather than the reel hande and that lighter weight reel ideally also in a smaller form factor is preferable. A more control orientated braking profile is also preferred since I will be skipping baits under docks and low handing branches. Thank you both. So if I’m understanding correctly, these reasons wouldn’t make a “chuck and wind” reel a bad “bottom contact” reel, correct? 1 Quote
Bigbox99 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 47 minutes ago, woolleyfooley said: Thank you both. So if I’m understanding correctly, these reasons wouldn’t make a “chuck and wind” reel a bad “bottom contact” reel, correct? No, not at all other than a preference in gear ratios between the two which is highly overstated these days. A 6:1 is perfectly fine for jig and worms despite everyone needing an 8:1. 6.8:1 was "hyper speed" not long ago. 1 Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted January 31 Posted January 31 12 hours ago, Bigbox99 said: No, not at all other than a preference in gear ratios between the two which is highly overstated these days. A 6:1 is perfectly fine for jig and worms despite everyone needing an 8:1. 6.8:1 was "hyper speed" not long ago. Agreed. I have developed a fondness for the old Daiwa TDZ reels. When they came out with the 6.3 ratio gear on those, the reviews described them as "Lightning quick 6.3:1 gear ratio", and that was just in the late 90's and early 2000s. Before that I think their fastest gears were like 5.8:1. It IS amazing to me that those years are now about 25 years ago though.... Wow!! 2 Quote
woolleyfooley Posted January 31 Posted January 31 11 hours ago, FrnkNsteen said: Agreed. I have developed a fondness for the old Daiwa TDZ reels. When they came out with the 6.3 ratio gear on those, the reviews described them as "Lightning quick 6.3:1 gear ratio", and that was just in the late 90's and early 2000s. Before that I think their fastest gears were like 5.8:1. It IS amazing to me that those years are now about 25 years ago though.... Wow!! 23 hours ago, Bigbox99 said: No, not at all other than a preference in gear ratios between the two which is highly overstated these days. A 6:1 is perfectly fine for jig and worms despite everyone needing an 8:1. 6.8:1 was "hyper speed" not long ago. Thank you both! It’s wild that we now have a zillion in a 10.0:1 gear ratio! I wonder how fast reels will continue to get in the future. As for the @UmairF, did you get your reel yet? Have a chance to try it? What are your thoughts? 1 Quote
UmairF Posted February 2 Author Posted February 2 On 1/31/2025 at 4:17 PM, woolleyfooley said: Thank you both! It’s wild that we now have a zillion in a 10.0:1 gear ratio! I wonder how fast reels will continue to get in the future. As for the @UmairF, did you get your reel yet? Have a chance to try it? What are your thoughts? I did and it feels great in hand! Not sure I’d pay full retail for it though (not that I’d ever recommend anyone buying things full retail). I posted a video on my initial impressions of it if you guys are interested: Daiwa Steez A II Unboxing – Is This $700 Reel Worth It?! https://youtu.be/X6bFiJFuqfM 3 Quote
woolleyfooley Posted February 2 Posted February 2 21 hours ago, UmairF said: I did and it feels great in hand! Not sure I’d pay full retail for it though (not that I’d ever recommend anyone buying things full retail). I posted a video on my initial impressions of it if you guys are interested: Daiwa Steez A II Unboxing – Is This $700 Reel Worth It?! https://youtu.be/X6bFiJFuqfM Cool! I’m guessing you won’t get it out on the water for a couple more months? Quote
UmairF Posted February 2 Author Posted February 2 26 minutes ago, woolleyfooley said: Cool! I’m guessing you won’t get it out on the water for a couple more months? Yeah unfortunately the water is still hard where I’m at. I will end up posting a more detailed review after getting some solid time on the water with it maybe at the end of this year, just so that I can give an accurate description of how it performs after a season of use. Quote
woolleyfooley Posted Sunday at 10:53 PM Posted Sunday at 10:53 PM On 2/2/2025 at 5:49 PM, UmairF said: Yeah unfortunately the water is still hard where I’m at. I will end up posting a more detailed review after getting some solid time on the water with it maybe at the end of this year, just so that I can give an accurate description of how it performs after a season of use. You should take a vacation to Florida and try it out. 😎 1 Quote
woolleyfooley Posted Tuesday at 08:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:47 PM Does the JDM steez a II have brass or aluminum gears? Quote
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