Ohioguy25 Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 I currently have the 6th sense models, and my line is constantly getting tangled around the head and under the wires which kinks the line. Are there any brands which do not do this or is that just unavoidable? It appears hog farmer has much narrower heads with tapered ends, shaped like a little football. Do they design it this way for this exact reason or is it still an issue? Quote
Pat Brown Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 Can you take a picture of what you mean? - kind of hard to picture what you're describing. Sounds like maybe you are getting tangled up in the cast and not the retrieve though.... 1 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted December 27, 2024 Super User Posted December 27, 2024 I've had it happened occasionally on a couple of different rigs from different makers like Yum and Picasso, but it's not the design of A-Rigs per say, rather how I was casting them. With any big bait such an A Rig or big swimbait, you have to be very smooth and deliberate to not tumble or helicopter the bait 4 1 Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 27, 2024 Super User Posted December 27, 2024 Go to a C Store and get one of those red coffee stirring straws. Put it on the line next to the bait until you don’t need it. 3 Quote
rangerjockey Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 If it's tumbling in the air when you cast it your asking for it. I kinda side arm the thing. 2 Quote
Super User MickD Posted December 28, 2024 Super User Posted December 28, 2024 Might help to stop it just before it hits the water, too. I've gotten into the habit of doing this with most lures, especially spinnerbaits. Little to no experience with A rigs. 2 Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted December 28, 2024 Super User Posted December 28, 2024 Yep. Now I build my own with a 6" wire coming out the nose. Problem solved. It completely stopped the tumbling on the cast. As an added bonus, it only costs me about $7 to build a rig, and they're very durable because there are no sharp bends in the wires. 😉 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 28, 2024 Super User Posted December 28, 2024 14 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said: it's not the design of A-Rigs per say, rather how I was casting them. With any big bait such an A Rig or big swimbait, you have to be very smooth and deliberate to not tumble or helicopter the bait X2 ~ Nailed It. I came here to make this exact comment. Letting the rod load on the cast helps deliver the A-Rig smoothly. It's like casting a chandelier regardless, but if it's tumbling wildly mid cast, there's a good chance it will foul up on the landing. Which will totally FUBAR that cast. All we can do at that point is reel it in, fix it, and try again. A-Jay 3 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 58 minutes ago, A-Jay said: X2 ~ Nailed It. I came here to make this exact comment. Letting the rod load on the cast helps deliver the A-Rig smoothly. It's like casting a chandelier regardless, but if it's tumbling wildly mid cast, there's a good chance it will foul up on the landing. Which will totally FUBAR that cast. All we can do at that point is reel it in, fix it, and try again. A-Jay So the smaller, narrower head on the Hog Farmer will not make a difference? Quote
VolFan Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 It’ll be a smaller, narrower head, if that makes a difference. Smooth is fast with the big danglies. 2 Quote
Pat Brown Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 You just gotta work on casting mechanics with big clunky baits and it's a steeper learning curve. It will also make you forget how to cast normal sized lures. There's a reason I throw a spinnerbait and not an A rig 😜👍🏼 But the bait monkey LOVES a rigs. 40$ worth of tackle gone in one cast? Yessir. Bait monkey loves em. 2 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 28, 2024 Super User Posted December 28, 2024 8 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said: So the smaller, narrower head on the Hog Farmer will not make a difference? I fish that bait and IMO, as far as castability is concerned, it doesn't seem any better or worse than any other A-Rigs I've fished. Again, I believe the way the rig is casted, determines how it eventually lands & runs. Additionally what weight heads are used and where they are positioned on the rig can be a factor. I usually use all 1/8 oz heads but if I am going up in weight the heavier baits are always positioned on the bottom arms of the rig to act like a rudder. I looked for some video of me casting an A-Rig and I found this from a few years back. It's actually a day where a spinnerbait produced, but I started the day with the A-Rig. This was a SK short arm bait I no longer fish because the brown bass were tearing the arms off it during the fight. Here a a couple of casts . . . I am and still use a 7'6" MH Mod Fast Graphite stick and 15-17 lb FC. https://youtu.be/Z95g3H4qmp0?feature=shared&t=41 btw- in the video, if you slow down the playback speed, you'll be able to see the rod load a little better. A-Jay 4 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted December 28, 2024 Super User Posted December 28, 2024 4 hours ago, rangerjockey said: If it's tumbling in the air when you cast it your asking for it. I kinda side arm the thing. 3 hours ago, MickD said: Might help to stop it just before it hits the water, too. 1 hour ago, A-Jay said: Again, I believe the way the rig is casted, determines how it eventually lands & runs. Additionally what weight heads are used and where they are positioned on the rig can be a factor. A-Jay THIS, THIS AND THIS ^^^ It can/will happen to all of them at some point if your mechanics aren’t good, or the balance is off. Quite a few variables at play, so you just need to be attentive to every cast to minimize the issue. 5 Quote
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