Spinning Reel for NRX+ 852S

[lunkerboss923]

I'm looking for a reel for this rod. Son just killed it in his first semester in college. 

 

[Loomis13]

2500 or 3000 twin power. I like something a little heavier than a vanford for that rod. Could also go certate from daiwa.

[Hulkster]

Stradic 3000

[AlabamaSpothunter]

If it were me, I'd want a comparable priced reel to the rod. 

 

I'd get a JDM 24 Certate 3000CXH

 

On a budget, I'd get the JDM 24 Stradic 3000XH

[lunkerboss923]

4 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

If it were me, I'd want a comparable priced reel to the rod. 

 

I'd get a JDM 24 Certate 3000CXH

 

Yeh, the Certate is a little rich for his blood. He has a Stradic 3000HG. I'm thinking about getting him a Twin Power 3000HG. 

[AlabamaSpothunter]

All the higher end Shimanos and Daiwas are awesome, I'm sure he'll be happy with a Twin Power.  

[lunkerboss923]

What do you recommend for fishing applications? Where does the NRX shine? 

[WRB]

The 852 is a finesse MF rod.

No reason to put a heavy size 3000 reel on it. 
You want balance and a 7’1” NRX will balance with. 2500 size spinning reels.

Does your son use braid with a leader?

Tom

[Loomis13]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

The 852 is a finesse MF rod.

No reason to put a heavy size 3000 reel on it. 
You want balance and a 7’1” NRX will balance with. 2500 size spinning reels.

Does your son use braid with a leader?

Tom

To Tom’s point the stradic (not Ci4 which is longer made) is a pretty heavy reel. I think too heavy for something like an NRX. But a Vanford might also be too light, which is why I recommended the twin power. 
 

nrx will be good for anything bottom contact up to like 1/4 plus plastic or weightless stuff as well. 

[lunkerboss923]

6 hours ago, Loomis13 said:

To Tom’s point the stradic (not Ci4 which is longer made) is a pretty heavy reel. I think too heavy for something like an NRX. But a Vanford might also be too light, which is why I recommended the twin power. 
 

nrx will be good for anything bottom contact up to like 1/4 plus plastic or weightless stuff as well. 

I was listening to Tactical Bassin and the Vanford falls under the Finesse category and the Twin Power goes under the Power category. The NRX+ will be finesse jigs, senkos, small swim baits, soft jerkbaits/flukes, Tubes, Neko rig, and full sized shakeyheads. It's a utility rod. I think for what he wants it for a Twin Power 3000 works fine. 

[Junk Fisherman]

11 hours ago, WRB said:

The 852 is a finesse MF rod.

No reason to put a heavy size 3000 reel on it. 
You want balance and a 7’1” NRX will balance with. 2500 size spinning reels.

Does your son use braid with a leader?

Tom

 

You have to check the difference in weight from the 2500 to the 3000.  The 3000 Vanford is only 0.1 oz more than the 2500.  For a Talula it is a 0.4 oz difference.  I'd rather have the bigger reel since the larger spools is better for casting distance.  

[FishTank]

I have the 872S NRX+ and I have it paired with a Daiwa Certate FC LT2500S-DH. Awesome reel. It has plenty of power and is really smooth. With that said, I also have a 2000 and a 2500 Shimano Twin Power and between the Twin Power and Certate, I would go with the Twin Power. To me it feels better than the Stella.

 

As far as size goes, I think you can go either way with a 2500 or 3000 size reel for the 852S NRX+ but my personal preference would be a 2500 (just feels better to me and I don't see the advantage to the bigger size).  To me, my 872S is way mislabeled. It seems to have a lot more power than what it is listed as. It feels more like the 803S I have in that terms.  Also, a word of caution if you buy a 3000 JDM Twin Power. Pay attention to the model and spool capacity.  See below. 

 

 

 

[Loomis13]

2 hours ago, lunkerboss923 said:

I was listening to Tactical Bassin and the Vanford falls under the Finesse category and the Twin Power goes under the Power category. The NRX+ will be finesse jigs, senkos, small swim baits, soft jerkbaits/flukes, Tubes, Neko rig, and full sized shakeyheads. It's a utility rod. I think for what he wants it for a Twin Power 3000 works fine. 

Yeah they would be correct. I tend to look more at balancing, and I know my 872S balances better with ~7 oz reel. At least that’s what I prefer. The twin power will also get closer to Stella performance wise. 
 

regarding the 2500 vs 3000, another thing to keep in mind is the 3000 will have a T handle and the 2500 will have an I handle, at least I think that’s what it is called. Some people prefer that, some people hate, and some wouldn’t even notice the difference. 

[WRB]

Vanford 2500 vs 3000 is the same reel and spool diameter, 3000 spool is deeper the gear ratio is 6.4 vs 6.0 faster IPT.

Spinning  reels have faster IPT then casting reels and finesse you don’t need speed.

Tom

 

[Big Hands]

14 hours ago, WRB said:

The 852 is a finesse MF rod.

No reason to put a heavy size 3000 reel on it. 
You want balance and a 7’1” NRX will balance with. 2500 size spinning reels.

Does your son use braid with a leader?

Tom

 

I 100% agree with this. There are many reels that will do a fine job of doing the job a reel is supposed to do. Given that #1 is generally true, especially considering the level of investment that an NRX+ demands, my #1 priority would be balance. I'd much rather fish with a rod that costs half as much with a decent reel that feels that's properly balanced than fish an NRX+ 852s with ANY rod/reel combo that's not balanced. And my next priority would be to double check the balance. Once that has been verified, I will consider the rest of the details.

 

If you had the rod in hand, you could take it with you to shop for a reel. 

[smesx]

I have that exact rod with a 2500 Vanford A on it.  It feels great, awesome combo. Used primarily for neko rig.  If you go for a Vanford efinitely get the newer Vanford A which feels more refined than the previous gen.

[lunkerboss923]

Got the Vanford for my 822S DSR. Like that Stradic for the 852S JWR. Just not sure if I need the 3000 or 2500. 

[Wprich]

Anything in a 2500 or 3000 will work I have a Twin Power on one Stella on my other.

[Bass Rutten]

On 12/14/2024 at 9:12 PM, lunkerboss923 said:

What do you recommend for fishing applications? Where does the NRX shine? 

I had and used one for a full year, and unless the new ones are different I found it to be a terrible caster unless using at least 3/8oz, it had a way stiffer tip than I expected. I’d call it a medium, and a powerful one at that. I wound up selling it because its stiff tip made it difficult to cast really light lures/rigs. I once heard it was designed for the senko but I have no way to confirm that though it makes sense. I ended up using it mostly as a 1/8-1/4oz mojo rig rod (usually with a senko), neko rig, and finesse jigs. I used a tatula 3000 reel and it balanced fine, it's very lightweight but it ain't no fragile fairy wand (again the new ones may be different) mine was from about 5 years ago.

[WRB]

Why on earth do you need a deeper spool with more line capacity for bass fishing?

The difference in weight is in the T handle  on the 3000.

Tom

[KP Duty]

A Vanquish 3000HGDH (dual handle...175g's) would be my first choice at $366 from Japan Lure Shop.  My less expensive pick is the Essence XR 3000 (180g's...ci4 frame) @ $203...also from JLS.  If you order from JLS, you'll get a free JDM bait like a Vision 110 or jackhammer.

[lunkerboss923]

On 12/16/2024 at 8:43 PM, WRB said:

Why on earth do you need a deeper spool with more line capacity for bass fishing?

The difference in weight is in the T handle  on the 3000.

Tom

I've asked the guy at the local pro shop, he says he uses a 3000. You say a 2500. So confused. Does fishing have to be so complicated?

[FishTank]

11 hours ago, lunkerboss923 said:

I've asked the guy at the local pro shop, he says he uses a 3000. You say a 2500. So confused. Does fishing have to be so complicated?

 

I would choose the one you are most comfortable with. The advantage to having a 3000 size reel is the extra line capacity, potentially (and it's minimal) longer casts, and a stronger drag which is not exactly necessary. The only downside I see is having a bigger spool and wanting to use a small diameter braided line. You end up wasting line and costing yourself a few extra bucks. 

 

I do know seveal people that prefer to fish with 4000 sized reels. In one buddy's case, it was because his hands are the size of oven mitts and 4000 size reel fits his hands better. He also fished with a few 5000 sized reels as well. 

 

If you go back to you local shop, put a 3000 and 2500 reel on some rods and see what it's like. The only problem with this is that there is no real standard between manufacturers and even some reel lines. You may have a 3000 reel that is the exact same size as a 2500 but just with a larger spool. 

 

In the end,  I think you can't go wrong either way.

[Rockhopper]

I have two spools each for my Shimano vanford and ci4+ stradic.  2500 and 3000 for both.  The base reels purchased were 3000 size because I wanted the faster gear ratio.  I swapped the knob on the vanford to the 2500 size.  I have one spooled with braid and one with mono for each reel.  Its easy to swap them out depending on what I am fishing for and how I am fishing.  These reels pull double duty and are also used on a couple of 10'6" river rods for steelhead.  Since I do not use spinning reels a ton...this was a much cheaper solution for me than owning 4 reels.  I have a total of about $100 extra invested with those three items, and two extremely universal reels.

[Loomis13]

Very simplistic approach here, but don’t over complicate things. 3000 has the T handle, 2500 doesn’t. Whichever handle you prefer get, go with that sized real. 
 

of course there are little nuances to each size but you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference unless you are real hardcore. Either one will work. You don’t need more drag capacity for bass fishing, I can guarantee that. Casting distance is maybe marginally noticeable.