Fishing jigs in grass?

[LrgmouthShad]

2 minutes ago, woolleyfooley said:

What are some better options for grass

Siebert grass, or Oldham jigs, or anything else Catt stated will work great

[woolleyfooley]

7 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Siebert grass, or Oldham jigs, or anything else Catt stated will work great

Oh I must have misunderstood! You said there were better options for grass and I thought you meant better than Siebert’s grass jig. Thanks for your help! 

[LrgmouthShad]

6 minutes ago, woolleyfooley said:

Oh I must have misunderstood! You said there were better options for grass and I thought you meant better than Siebert’s grass jig. Thanks for your help! 

Yeah I figured, no problem. When I said a jig wasn’t amazing for grass and there are better options, I was saying there are better options than the Coda Apex jig, not the Siebert grass

[Catt]

On 11/27/2024 at 6:11 PM, A-Jay said:

I'm just gonna leave this right here . . . . 

A-Jay

 

[woolleyfooley]

37 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

I have a couple punch skirts but I have no idea where I put them. What brands do y’all like?

[Catt]

@woolleyfooley The top picture is Big Red's Flying Jig. These are no longer in production. I like em because they are 1/4-3/8 oz.

 

The middle picture is a Strike King Swinging Swim Jig.

 

BOSS Weed Eater punch weights are excellent & come in 1/4 - 1 1/2 oz 

[Boomstick]

Something I learned from @Catt right here on these forums is that the trick to fishing a jig in grass is to incredibly gently finesse it through.

 

I used to tie on T-rigs only if there was a lot of grass until I gave it a shot, but it really works.

There are certain grass jigs with pointed heads designed to part grass, but I've been able to finesse a standard pitching jig through just fine once I learned what to do.

[woolleyfooley]

16 hours ago, Boomstick said:

Something I learned from @Catt right here on these forums is that the trick to fishing a jig in grass is to incredibly gently finesse it through.

 

I used to tie on T-rigs only if there was a lot of grass until I gave it a shot, but it really works.

There are certain grass jigs with pointed heads designed to part grass, but I've been able to finesse a standard pitching jig through just fine once I learned what to do.

Yeah. That advice was completely new to me. I’m planning on trying it out next time out. I used to fish a lot of laydowns so all I have are a bunch of Siebert brush jigs and some buckeye mop jigs. 
 

Still hoping @Siebert Outdoors can give his 2 cents. I’m wondering what he thinks is best for grass between the grass jig, the tungsten pitchin jig and the tungsten flippin jig. Also curious about colors for the tannic water down here.

 

I’d also love to hear from @Glenn. I’m wondering what he thinks about colors for south Florida’s tannic water. I know Glenn has a lot of experience and I’d also love to hear what colors he’s seen pros using in these tannic waters.
 

Definitely would appreciate hearing from both of them!

[Glenn]

Can't go wrong with dark colors in tannic water.  Black/blue, junebug, and dark brown/orange are staples.  

[txchaser]

On 11/30/2024 at 5:26 PM, woolleyfooley said:

I have a couple punch skirts but I have no idea where I put them. What brands do y’all like?

Get Siebert to make you up some wire tied heads/skirts. My hookup ratio improved with wire tie for sure. 

 

 

[woolleyfooley]

18 hours ago, Glenn said:

Can't go wrong with dark colors in tannic water.  Black/blue, junebug, and dark brown/orange are staples.  

Thank you! I used to use Bama craw a lot. The skirt is green pumpkin on top and orange on the bottom. Would that work well? 
 

As far as browns go, I keep reading about pb&j being a popular color. Seems like pb$j mixes junebug (purple) with dark brown. What are your thoughts on it?

[Glenn]

You're spot on.  Go for it!

[woolleyfooley]

22 hours ago, Glenn said:

You're spot on.  Go for it!

Which one? Bama craw or pb&j? Sorry just making sure!

[Glenn]

Bama Craw would be my first choice.

[woolleyfooley]

On 12/4/2024 at 6:25 PM, Glenn said:

Bama Craw would be my first choice.

Thanks! 
 

Still waiting to hear what @Siebert Outdoorsthinks is the best head choice between the grass jig, the tungsten flipping jig and the tungsten pitching jig. Also would love to hear his opinion on colors for Florida's tannic water.

[Motoboss]

I’m sure at some point he’ll reply but you can always shoot him a PM.

Pretty sure he’s up to his eyeballs in Christmas orders right now🎄

On 11/27/2024 at 7:11 PM, A-Jay said:

I'm just gonna leave this right here . . . . 

A-Jay

Is this assembly considered a grass jig, I assume.

Can you call out the specific components?

[A-Jay]

 

On 12/6/2024 at 7:21 AM, Motoboss said:

Is this assembly considered a grass jig, I assume.

Can you call out the specific components?

Essentially this is a "light weight" punch rig.

I fish it like a Texas Rig- just has a skirt included.

Been fishing it effectively for a long time.

I made this video 12 years ago.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/BOSS_Punch_Hub_5pk/descpage-BOSSPCH.html

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/search-tackle.html?start=0&count=20&searchtext=parasite+clip

 

A-Jay

 

[Siebert Outdoors]

17 hours ago, woolleyfooley said:

Thanks! 
 

Still waiting to hear what @Siebert Outdoorsthinks is the best head choice between the grass jig, the tungsten flipping jig and the tungsten pitching jig. Also would love to hear his opinion on colors for Florida's tannic water.

 

I have to agree with Glenn.  Bama Craw.   I have fished that color from MI to AL and east.   It just flat works.  My #2 got to would be the old stand by black and blue.  Junebug is a pretty good color in Tanic water also.

 

For the heads the Grass Jig and Tungsten Pitchin jig would be best for a jig style in the weeds.  The tungsten is slightly smaller due to it being denser then lead.   The other option I would consider is my Tungsten Punch Rig.  They work extremely well in thick weeds.  Its rigged just like Catts and Ajays pictures.    https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/tungsten-punch-rig

 

Pic of junebug and then a Tungsten Punch rig.

[Catt]

2 hours ago, Motoboss said:

Is this assembly considered a grass jig, I assume.

 

Down here it's called a "Texas Rigged Jig" & has been around long before skirted "punch" rigs. Don't know what @A-Jay calls his. 

 

 

[A-Jay]

28 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Down here it's called a "Texas Rigged Jig" & has been around long before skirted "punch" rigs. Don't know what @A-Jay calls his. 

 

 

Doesn't have a name really - 

My wife calls it the A-Jay rig.

A-Jay

 

[Team9nine]

A little back history...

 

Culprit came out with their Captivator skirted slip sinker heads back in 1987. Those were some of the earliest versions of this idea sold commercially. Billy Bowen (GA) originally designed the bait modification for himself, took it to Eb Hargrove, a local Lake Sinclair guide, who in turn took it to John Zook, then tech-rep for Classic Mfg. (Culprit), who ended up contracting with Billy to do most all the manufacturing.

 

Back in Texas, and slightly before all this happened, a Mansfield area fisherman named Jim Brown designed and fished a slip sinker that carried a fiber skirt, and was then fished similarly to a jig and pig. Same basic idea, but I don't think it ever made it outside that local area.

 

 

[Catt]

It stared for me back in the 70s when I use to make lures, one night I decided to stuff a bullet weight into a rubber skirt. It was so difficult I gave up after only making a half a dozen. This little trick when paired with a craw worm won me many a tournament.

 

Scott's Marina on the Texas side of Toledo Bend is a one room building, a small wharf big enough for a couple jon boats, and a launch. Scott sold Community Coffee which is the #1 coffee of Cajuns and why I hung around. He had maybe a dozen packs of worms, 4-5 spinner baits & traps. On one particular morning I noticed some new lures lying on the counter, I picked one up & the little card read "Big Red's Flying Jig". Inside was the lead head of a spinner bait, a skirt, & a 3/0 offset hook with a hitch hiher attached. I bought em all!

 

This was the perfect answer to putting a skirt on a bullet weight!

[Motoboss]

On 12/6/2024 at 9:29 AM, A-Jay said:

Essentially this is a "light weight" punch rig.

I fish it like a Texas Rig- just has a skirt included.

Been fishing it effectively for a long time.

I made this video 12 years ago.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/BOSS_Punch_Hub_5pk/descpage-BOSSPCH.html

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/search-tackle.html?start=0&count=20&searchtext=parasite+clip

 

A-Jay

 

Thank you for the video.
 Sooooo this rig has to be “built” as it’s fished, unless it’s done as a (say) flouro leader and attached to a main line which could be prerigged ahead of time?

I like it!

[A-Jay]

14 minutes ago, Motoboss said:

Thank you for the video.
 Sooooo this rig has to be “built” as it’s fished, unless it’s done as a (say) flouro leader and attached to a main line which could be prerigged ahead of time?

I like it!

Yup.

I will often build them on wire when fishing toothy critter in fested waters.

A-Jay 

[woolleyfooley]

3 hours ago, Siebert Outdoors said:

 

I have to agree with Glenn.  Bama Craw.   I have fished that color from MI to AL and east.   It just flat works.  My #2 got to would be the old stand by black and blue.  Junebug is a pretty good color in Tanic water also.

 

For the heads the Grass Jig and Tungsten Pitchin jig would be best for a jig style in the weeds.  The tungsten is slightly smaller due to it being denser then lead.   The other option I would consider is my Tungsten Punch Rig.  They work extremely well in thick weeds.  Its rigged just like Catts and Ajays pictures.    https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/tungsten-punch-rig

 

Pic of junebug and then a Tungsten Punch rig.

Thank you @Siebert Outdoors! What do you think about okeechobee craw? I’m assuming the name came from it being good in Lake Okeechobee. 
 

Oh, and PB&J? I keep hearing about that one.