Lard_Bass Posted January 23, 2007 Author Posted January 23, 2007 Lard Bass, Because of roadwarrior and the purchase of a Symetre spinning reel here lately, I was wondering most of those questions myself. Thanks for this post.... As Ever, Skillet No problem. I just bought some new spinning gear myself. I got a Shimano Sedona and Daiwa Laguna at fantastic prices. This forum has been a fantastic source for information. I usually try searching the forum (usually a question is asked within days of me thinking about it). If I cannot find a answer, then I go to the board for help. BTW, definitely use the plastic bag trick to set your drag. I learned it from this forum last fall and it was a great trick. The best one so far (because it didn't cost me a dime!). RW, one more question. Any tricks to putting this UltraSoft on your spool that I need to know? I was just going to lay it down, run it through the guides, and spool it. Didn't know if you have any tips to make to avoid memory. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Same as other lines: Start with the spool flat on the floor, label up. After five or six cranks, lower the rod tip and see if the line is twisting up. If it is, turn the spool over; if not, continue on. I consider the reel "full" about 1/16" from the lip of the spool. I also like Reel Magic or the KVD product which I spray on every now and then while spooling, 15-20 cranks. Even if everthing works out perfectly, I still like to troll new line, especially the first time out. Quote
cbfishalot Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 roadwarrior Do you use Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft? Is it best to use Hybrid on casting gear and Hybrid Ultra Soft on spinning gear? Is there a need for a pure fluocarbon in deep clear water at all, like on a drop shot? Is Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft the do all line because it won't hurt my feelings to not buy another spool of pure fluocarbon again? (Yo-Zuri is alot less expensive) Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 24, 2007 Super User Posted January 24, 2007 It's the "do all" line for me. I have original Hybrid on one baitcaster right now just because I had some left, but going forward I'll be using Ultra Soft on all rods. #4 & #6 on spinning tackle, #12 on casting gear. Well, a little disclaimer...I'm still going to test some other lines occasionally, that's just fun. I tried several last year, but for the most part they didn't work for me. One line I found that I did like was Sunline Defier, which I fished a little bit with Bud on Kentucky Lake. However, it is pretty pricey, 330 yards for $40. If you don't mind the price, you might give it a try. Quote
cbfishalot Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 roadwarrior Does the Yo-Zuri Hybrid sink as fast as pure fluocarbon? Would the Yo-Zuri sink rate effect jerkbaits or topwater? Do you use a braid with a Yo-Zuri leader for jerk baits? I'M SOLD !!!!! NEED TO ORDER SOME!!!!!!! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 24, 2007 Super User Posted January 24, 2007 Yo-Zuri doesn't sink, it floats. I don't fish braid, so I don't use leaders. Quote
Bud Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 RW you are going to have start charging for that info. ;D ;D ;D Believe it or not he does know fishing. Quote
dp0350 Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 RW, I was looking into switching to Flouro from monofilament for my trout fishing and the Hybrid ultrasoft seems like the perfect match. I do however have a question about color. Most of my fishing is done in shallow clear water. I would love to use the green for the visibility above the water but what about under the water? Will I have to use the clear if I want to have the best chance of not spooking the (sometimes pressured) trout that I am fishing for. Thanks for the help. Quote
dp0350 Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Forgot to ask a quick question about the drag setting. I am going to use the bag trick with the 4# ultrasoft. I put roughly 1/3 of 4 lbs in the bag. Not 1/3 of the average break strength listed by the manufacturer? Quote
Guest avid Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I still like to troll new line, especially the first time out. Absolutely. I also like to throw some 1/2 oz. rattltraps. Cast em way out there and reel em in straight. I'm a firm believer that line needs to be "broken in" especially on spinning gear. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 29, 2007 Super User Posted January 29, 2007 Color: Although I don't really think the color matters, I suggest green. The "clear" isn't, it's white. Setting the drag: #4 ~8.5 lb test. The drag should be set between 2 & 2 1/2 lbs, I tend to be on the light side and use the rod to fight the fish. I have boated numerous catfish, drum and buffalo well over 15 lbs on this line when smallmouth fishing. I have TOTAL confidence in #4 line in relatively open water. Quote
Navy Chief Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I bought some of the Ultra-Soft in 12# and plan on using it on a couple BC's. I am just the opposite with the Cobra X-Tex, my brother had 6# on his drop shot rod and caught NUMEROUS smallmouths in the 2-4# range and a channel cat in the 15# range. I tried some 8# and loved it on my finesse rod, great sensitivity and hook setting power. I suppose since we both had it on ML rods it took some of the shock that normally would have caused breakage? I don't know if maybe there was a bad batch out there, I have enough to last me and my brother through this year and will see how it holds up to more use. I am finally going to go on shore duty and get some REAL fishing time in the next few years. Quote
hi_steel_basser Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 I'm thinking about trying some of this here Yozuri ultra soft myself, but I'm still confused as to what size I need to buy. What # vs. actual break strength is ok, but I don't know that info about my p-line. I would like to keep the same diameter line or smaller, while keeping the same break strength or greater. HELP!!! ;D Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 30, 2007 Super User Posted January 30, 2007 Use #6 ~11.9 lb test on spinning tackle. #12 ~19.5 lb test on baitcasting equipment. Quote
hi_steel_basser Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 OK, I get the point, RW. Yozuri ultra soft is the (bleep). I will buy a spool or three and try it out this year. Quote
Lard_Bass Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 Hey RW, How's this line (especially #6) in trying to pull fish out of slop? I have used a snagless rat / frog and remember that usually a heavier test is needed to pull the fish out. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 2, 2007 Super User Posted February 2, 2007 Wrong line...Some kind of braid is a MUCH better choice in any vegetation. I fish relatively open water. Heavy line is sometimes necessary. Quote
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