Lard_Bass Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I probably should have just sent roadwarrior a PM but I'll poll other veterans on this board. I am thinking of switching from Trilene XL to Yo-Zuri. Several questions. 1. Is Ultra Soft the better way to go for spinning gear versus the original Hybrid. 2. How do you set the drag for this line (do you use Yo-Zuri's test rating or the average break rating that they disclose which is usually higher). Do I set the drag according to 6# or 11.9 lb? 3. For those trout fisherman out there, I was thinking of getting some mono in 4 lb test. Should I step down on the Yo-Zuri given its high break point rating (get 2# instead). 4. Should I bother using KVD's line softener on this line (similar to Reel Magic). 5. What is the best knot to tie lures on this lines? I typically use a cinch knot or a rapala knot. 6. Any color preference? I am thinking clear for trout fishing and green for bass? Thanks to those on the board for educating me on this line. I have been amazed by my google search to see the overwhelming positive feedback on this line. Quote
HPBB Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 RW can give better answeres than me. I do use Hybrid, but have not used ultrasoft yet. I mainly use hybrid & P-line Florocrear the light line is great on spinning gear. yes! use reel magic or KVD's stuff, it will make the line more workable. I swear by it. color? that's up to you. I use clear all the time Knot? I use a polamar, never failed me where around Pittsburgh are you from? Quote
pitchnboy Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Does #6 mean 6lbs test? or what??? (for ultrasoft) pitch Quote
RiskKid. Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I switched to the ultra soft this past year based on RW's opinions and am glad I did. The ultra soft is better for spinning as it is designed for spinning and has less memory. I set the drag based on about 10 lb test (2.5 to 3 lbs) just because I think that is a conservative compromise. I do use KVD's line conditioner and recommend it although it's not absolutely necessary. You will find with more use this line will loosen up. I use the green color and a palomar knot. Quote
KenDammit28 Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Does #6 mean 6lbs test? or what??? (for ultrasoft)pitch # is the pound symbol so anytime you see it mentioned with fishing, its referring to pounds. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 22, 2007 Super User Posted January 22, 2007 Lard_Bass, 1. Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft was designed specifically for spinning tackle. In use, there is virtually no memory. 2. Set the drag as you would with 12 lb test line. I suggest putting 3 lbs (25% of breaking stength) of canned goods in a platic bag. The drag should release as you GENTLY try to lift the bag. 3. #4 is the smallest line they make. 4. Yes, I use Reel Magic and KVD. 5. Palomar Knot is what I use. 6. I don't think it makes a difference, but I prefer green. (I happen to be using white exclusively becasuse I found it on sale!) Good luck! Quote
Lard_Bass Posted January 22, 2007 Author Posted January 22, 2007 RW, Thanks, all those answers make sense. My biggest confusion was the labeling of the line. 6# denotes the pound test but the yo-zuri average break strength is much higher. I saw the plastic bag trick a couple of months ago and have been setting it according to the label on the spool not the average break strength (which Yo Zuri discloses). For all those confused (like I was) see this (see, 6# or pound test has a average break of 11.9 lb): http://www.yo-zuri.com/Products/ProdLine/HybridLineChart.htm Also, RW, they do sell the Ultrasoft in 2#. While I cannot find the average break strength, I figure its probably 4 lb. See link: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0030185119278a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=yo+zuri&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=yo+zuri&noImage=0 I was thinking of getting the 2# for trout gear. Quote
Super User Marty Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 I've seen numerous references to the Yo-Zuri's breaking strength, but it doesn't mean much to me in the abstract. Does anyone know the breaking strength of other lines of the same nominal pound test? Quote
Lard_Bass Posted January 23, 2007 Author Posted January 23, 2007 where around Pittsburgh are you from? In the South Hills, near Peters Twp and Canonsburg. Are you around here? Also, I see BPS has a special on the Yo-Zuri X-Tex line. Anyone with experience with this line on spinning gear? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Yep, I see #2 listed, it must have been added recently. Stay away from the X-Tex Cobra, it is some of the worst line I have ever tried. Quote
papadew Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 RW...mind listing your sources for the Yozuri US besides just Cabelas? Thanks. Papa Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Would the ultra soft #6 be strong enough for river fishing smallies in rivers with lots and lots of rocks and a good amount of mussels? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Some Wal-Mart stores carry Ultra Soft. Quote
Lard_Bass Posted January 23, 2007 Author Posted January 23, 2007 Yep, I see #2 listed, it must have been added recently.Stay away from the X-Tex Cobra, it is some of the worst line I have ever tried. Will do. It must be why they are dumping it out at $2.88 a spool. Would the ultra soft #6 be strong enough for river fishing smallies in rivers with lots and lots of rocks and a good amount of mussels? If I am not mistaken, RW's picture is of 2 river smallies caught on the Ultra Soft line (6#). I remember him saying that somewhere. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Would the ultra soft #6 be strong enough for river fishing smallies in rivers with lots and lots of rocks and a good amount of mussels? If I am not mistaken, RW's picture is of 2 river smallies caught on the Ultra Soft line (6#). I remember him saying that somewhere. Yeah, but I don't know if that river has lots of rocks and/or mussels... To clarify my question, I usually fish a very shallow river with lots and lots of long slabs of rocks that are sometimes covered with mussels. Will Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultrasoft #6 be able to hold up to the abrasion it will receive in such specific circumstances? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 The Tennessee River is filled with what I have occasionally referred to as the "Rocks from Hell." Both original Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft are as abrassive resistant as any line I have ever fished. If you consider Trilene XT as the standard, Yo-Zuri is just as tough. I have NEVER been broken off by a fish using this line. Quote
justtrying Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 Yep, I see #2 listed, it must have been added recently.Stay away from the X-Tex Cobra, it is some of the worst line I have ever tried. Yep, ...got a spool now i'll sell you....Cheap! ronnie Quote
skillet Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 Lard Bass, Because of roadwarrior and the purchase of a Symetre spinning reel here lately, I was wondering most of those questions myself. Thanks for this post.... As Ever, Skillet Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 The Tennessee River is filled with what I have occasionally referred to as the "Rocks from Hell." Both original Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft are as abrassive resistant as any line I have ever fished. If you consider Trilene XT as the standard, Yo-Zuri is just as tough. I have NEVER been broken off by a fish using this line. fantastic, thanks. Maybe I'll have to grab some and try it out this spring or summer. Quote
Super User flechero Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 RW...mind listing your sources for the Yozuri US besides just Cabelas? Thanks. Papa Someone already said Gander mountain, also Sportsman's Warehouse, BPS, amd all the larger on line retailers carry it. A few of the smaller retail outlets I've visited also have it. (wal-mart in my area doesn't carry it.) Quote
Valascus Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 The BPS in Saint Louis carries the Yo-Zuri Hybrid Line, but they do not carry the Ultra Soft. In fact when I asked about it the guy workin' in the area looked at me like I was nuts. The Wal-Marts in my area do not carry it either. When I went to Yo-zuri's website you can look up local dealers. Unfortunately there are none for MO until the Cabela's in Hazelwood is completed. On Yo-Zuri's website there was also a link to all the internet dealers. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Well, I don't know how many have noticed, but Cabela's has recently become one of our sponsors! So, if you just click on their banner and order up some line, BassResource.com gets a small advertising fee which costs you and me nothing. Quote
Super User flechero Posted January 23, 2007 Super User Posted January 23, 2007 Well, I don't know how many have noticed, but Cabela's has recently become one of our sponsors!So, if you just click on their banner and order up some line, BassResource.com gets a small advertising fee which costs you and me nothing. I noticed that... about 30 minutes AFTER the UPS man delivered my reel that came from Cabela's. talk about the old saying "a day late and a dollar short" Oh well, they will be contributing to the forum on my behalf, many times this year... Quote
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