Pitching w/ fluorocarbon line

[Cigarlover 1]

So I just finished watching the KVD flipping/pitching DVD. My question is do you think a faster action rod gives you and advantage over a slower action rod when pitching/flipping with fluoro line since it doesn't stretch? I've never really done any pitching or flipping just looking for opinions here.

[Root beer]

I pitched with fluro before. Caught a bass. ;D

[bassnleo]

IMO, the faster action rod paired with floro gives you the ability to quickly get the fish out of whatever cover you are flipping or pitching to.

I almost always flip/pitch with floro or braid and am currently using the Quantum Tour Edition Pt signature series (Gary Kline) flippin stick.

It's been a great combination for me.

[Siebert Outdoors]

Most of my fishing includes pitching and flouro.  Thats pretty much the way I fish except in technique specific areas.

[Garnet]

The overwelming responce will be rods that are extremely stiff right to the tip pool cue.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Whats call a 70/30 rod is best. The action you are looking for is a very soft tip. You want the tip to bend when you lift the smallest bait you might use. So likely 1/4 with a trailer. And the power of your rod is 2/3 up the blank or about 3 to 4 guides from the tip.

When you pitch and raise your rod and the tip bends a little is your bait. Now if you lift your rod and no bend happens just set the hook on the other side if it bends a little more you need to go fish or.......and set the hook.

On the heavy end of baits you do not want your bait to pull the tip to the power point of your rod.

This type of rod will give a 25 % advantage over every guy that says you need a pool cue.........just smile thay never believe you and take there money.

Garnet

[Raul]

No difference, strecth or no stretch the action is in the rod not in the line, stretch counts when the fish pulls the line, BTW, fluoro indeed DOES STRETCH, a lot less than nylon but is not zero stretch like braided.

[YJsmitty]

So in my case most of the time I'm pitching in cover like grass So I will be fine with just fluorocarbon I don't need braided line?

[llPa1nll]

I made the switch to Fluro last year specifically 20lb Berkley Vanish from 17lb Pline CXX Strong on my most used jig rod. I like the idea of it being almost invisible under water and low stretch. Although my Pline CXX Strong had very little stretch and its color is well suited for the conditions I fish. I will continue to use Pline CXX Strong but will also use the Vanish until I completely make up my mind.

[RoLo]

No difference, strecth or no stretch the action is in the rod not in the line, stretch counts when the fish pulls the line, BTW, fluoro indeed DOES STRETCH, a lot less than nylon but is not zero stretch like braided.

Fluorocarbon is far from the Holy Grail, in fact it's so wiry and kinky that I even stopped using it for leader material

Roger

[Raul]

So in my case most of the time I'm pitching in cover like grass So I will be fine with just fluorocarbon I don't need braided line?

The only one that can give an answer to your question is YOU, how YOU feel with fluorcarbon ? does it perform well for YOU ?

If it ain 't broke don 't fix it.

[hi_steel_basser]

Personally, I prefer braid when I am fishing grass. The only reason IMO to use mono or co-poly is for the floating nature of the line. This allows subtle bites to be detected easier in shallower (under 10 ft) water. The braid will not kink, and it is harder for me to detect strikes when the line doesn't pull to the side as easy. In grass, you are fishing by feel, so that is when I go to no-stretch braid. Also, the braid isn't as easy to break off in the grass.

[The_Natural]

Fluoro that is softened for main line use stretches just as much as any other line.  The last test I saw had Pline CXX, Yozuri Hybrid, Trilene Sensation, and Stren Original stretching less than Seaguar or Pline fluorocarbon.  Fluoro is still a more sensitive line due to its density, and I also pitch with it because of that and it's light refraction properties.  

[Cigarlover 1]

Hey guys, thanks for the responses so far. Ultimately it'll take me being out on the water testing different lines to see what I'm comfortable with and what I think will match best with whatever rod I end up getting but now I have some food for thought. By all means keep em coming.

[Al Wolbach]

Since we (members) fish different areas of the country with different type of lakes and different types of cover our rods and lines preferences will differ a great deal. I switched to Vanish floro a few years ago and have never looked back. Simply put, it works for me.

On one lake I fish regularly I flip/pitch a great deal due to numerous laydowns and brush piles. The only way I know to consistantly pull heavy fish from deep in a laydown or deep in a brush pile is heavy line and a heavy action rod. A lighter action rod and lighter line will work most of the time but not consistantly on the bigger fish. I don't feel I can afford to lose the big ones. JMHO.............................Al