24 Steez Minor Overrun Issue

[Darrell Shep]

The Daiwa Steez 24 is an amazing reel. However, I keep experiencing minor overrun issues. I know it has a zero adjuster, but how can I stop this issue if I can’t adjust the spool tension? Is it the line or the iiweight that I’m using?

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, Darrell Shep said:

how can I stop this issue if I can’t adjust the spool tension?

If you can't adjust the tension, return it cause it's broke. The 'Zero Adjust' is their way of saying 'We set it to what we like it to be'...doesn't mean you can't reset it to something else that suits your style better.

[softwateronly]

I'd think your thumb should be the first correction.  But adjust away on the tension knob, I have moved every single one of mine without poor results.

 

scott

[PhishLI]

41 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

If you can't adjust the tension, return it cause it's broke.

It isn't broken. It's designed that way. The knob will not add tension whatsoever in this particular model even when fully locked down with the supplied tool. The cap only allows for access to the pinion bearing.

45 minutes ago, Darrell Shep said:

I know it has a zero adjuster, but how can I stop this issue if I can’t adjust the spool tension? Is it the line or the iiweight that I’m using?

Expand on that. Rod and line?  How lightweight of a bait are you trying to throw?

[bulldog1935]

more important, where in the cast is your backlash - start-up, mid-cast (hump) or finish cast?  

 

If it's at the start-up, you need to cast without jerk - follow-through, but don't snap your wrist.  

Mid-cast, use higher mag adjustment. 

End of your cast, anticipate and use your thumb - spool stop is up to you.  

Selah.  

[MN Fisher]

26 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

It isn't broken. It's designed that way. The knob will not add tension whatsoever in this particular model even when fully locked down with the supplied tool. The cap only allows for access to the pinion bearing.

First they remove the AR switch from spinning reels, then they make the Tension Adjuster not function...what are they going to do to screw us over next?

[PhishLI]

11 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

what are they going to do to screw us over next?

It'll be something🤣

[Darrell Shep]

36 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

It isn't broken. It's designed that way. The knob will not add tension whatsoever in this particular model even when fully locked down with the supplied tool. The cap only allows for access to the pinion bearing.

Expand on that. Rod and line?  How lightweight of a bait are you trying to throw?

15 pounds Tatsu, 3/8 tungsten drop shot weight. St.Croix Legend Xtreme 7’ lure rating 1/4-5/8

 

 

21 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

more important, where in the cast is your backlash - start-up, mid-cast (hump) or finish cast?  

 

If it's at the start-up, you need to cast without jerk - follow-through, but don't snap your wrist.  

Mid-cast, use higher mag adjustment. 

End of your cast, anticipate and use your thumb - spool stop is up to you.  

Selah.  

It’s usually at the end of the cast, once the lure hits the water 3 or 4 spools of line backlash, from my understanding this shouldn’t happen with a high end reel of this caliber.

[bulldog1935]

You should be thumbing the spool on the fall for your final elevation adjustment to cast accuracy, then stopping the spool will be no issue.  

 

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

.what are they going to do to screw us over next?

 

Expect us to cast without crutches.  

Talbot and Meek reels held all tournament distance-casting world records before modified Ambassadeur C(T) showed up with spool bearings in the 70s.  

All 3 points of backlash require thumb modulation (tournament casters don't care about backlash at end of cast, and want every cm they can gain on the fall).  The closest thing to a brake Talbot/Meek gave you were oil reservoirs on the spindle ends that created oil-whirl and acted like a mag brake at mid cast.  

If you want to get good with your thumb, tinker-cast a 100-y-o Shakespeare NLW.  

[Darrell Shep]

52 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

It isn't broken. It's designed that way. The knob will not add tension whatsoever in this particular model even when fully locked down with the supplied tool. The cap only allows for access to the pinion bearing.

Expand on that. Rod and line?  How lightweight of a bait are you trying to throw?

15 pounds Tatsu, 3/8 tungsten drop shot weight. St.Croix Legend Xtreme 7’ lure rating 1/4-5/8

[MN Fisher]

7 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

Expect us to cast without crutches.  

I can do without an AR switch - but I want my Tension 'crutch', without it I hobble along.

[Bigbox99]

19 minutes ago, Darrell Shep said:

15 pounds Tatsu, 3/8 tungsten drop shot weight. St.Croix Legend Xtreme 7’ lure rating 1/4-5/8

 

 

It’s usually at the end of the cast, once the lure hits the water 3 or 4 spools of line backlash, from my understanding this shouldn’t happen with a high end reel of this caliber.

Got to thumb the spool as the bait enters the water.  You don't have to stop it outright but bring it to a slow rotation.