Rapala DT16 Choked

[GetFishorDieTryin]

On 7/12/2024 at 10:25 AM, Pat Brown said:

Basically I have seen fish that should have died do well and make it AND I've hooked fish in the lip that nicked themselves grabbing the bait in some way that was fatal.

Thats not necessarily true.  Just because the fish swims away doesn't mean she's in the clear.  Delayed mortality % is surprisingly high, especially with bigger fish in warm water.  Believe it or not 2 dozen pics for the gram after the fish has fought her guts out is often the difference between living and dying.

[Bankbeater]

That bass really wanted that bait. 

[Pat Brown]

3 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Thats not necessarily true.  Just because the fish swims away doesn't mean she's in the clear.  Delayed mortality % is surprisingly high, especially with bigger fish in warm water.  Believe it or not 2 dozen pics for the gram after the fish has fought her guts out is often the difference between living and dying.

 

 

It is necessarily true that that is what I have seen. I did not say for sure if the fish survived or not. Just saying for sure these are things I have seen.  😎😎😎👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[GetFishorDieTryin]

18 hours ago, Pat Brown said:

 

 

It is necessarily true that that is what I have seen. I did not say for sure if the fish survived or not. Just saying for sure these are things I have seen.  😎😎😎👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Sorry I assumed when you said "do well" it meant survived...😎

[Pat Brown]

10 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Sorry I assumed when you said "do well" it meant survived...😎

 

 

I mean what I see is them seeming to do well instead of obviously immediately dying which they also do sometimes.  

 

There are surely dozens of bass that seemed to be doing well when I released them that later capitulated due to stress.  These unfortunate casualty fish (that we never see die) are always possible - but to me, less what the thread is about.

 

Just pointing out that fish that seem like they should be goners swim away *seemingly okay* and fish that seem like they should be okay go belly up.  We can only do our best to read each situation and act accordingly.

 

Best we can do is not tucker them out unnecessarily with long fights that stress them out and fill their blood with lactic acid and keep them in the water as much as possible after catching them with a quick release after any photos you need to take.

 

My goal with my comment was not to spread any misinformation but merely to offer some compassionate wisdom.

[Spankey]

On 7/12/2024 at 12:43 PM, Dan N said:

If one is bleeding that bad, I just keep it and eat it( if legal) 

 

I’ve never had a hard time giving one to someone. I dress it, they cook it. Glad they enjoy them. 
I’ve always felt bad when that happens. Still do. But it has not happened many times in 50 years. 

I would feel worse having it floating around belly up. Whether ethics or if only for my own head I’ll find it a home. I’ll grill it if I have to, my granddaughter loves eating fish. 

On 7/12/2024 at 1:05 PM, NorthernBasser said:

I know I'm probably in the minority, and by no means am I saying eating bass is wrong (whether they died from being caught or put in the livewell alive and well), but I just can't bring myself to do it. I do love eating other fish, but I just have way too much respect for these fish, the sport and the joy they bring me. I don't think I could ever cut one up/eat it. I think I'd just feel weird. 

 

Again, I'm not saying it's wrong if others do it.

I totally respect the respect thing. To let it go belly up I’ll pass on that. Respectable game fish like trout, bass or walleye will make someone happy. But it sucks, 1000’s of fish that I’ve caught and released, I hate when it happens. But that’s just my side of things. What others do does not concern me. 
 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

58 minutes ago, Pat Brown said:

My goal with my comment was not to spread any misinformation but merely to offer some compassionate wisdom.

I know,  I don't think you're spreading misinfo and that wasn't I didn't intend to portray that sentiment.  If I did I apologize. 

I was just wanted to add the factor of delayed mortality into the equation.  I feel like its overlooked often and it shouldn't be.  Not much you can do for a bleeding fish other than get it back into the water ASAP.  On the other hand, we can do alot to minimize the time the fish spends out of water by being more efficient with pictures and ensuring the fish is properly revived, but the reality is some people just don't.  We need to put the fish first, if we want to the sport to stick around.       

 

[Spankey]

I’m fortunate to have a working live well on my boat. Some basic tank solutions. I’m no fish doctor but I feel this has helped a few fish over the years. But I’m no doctor. I’m sure fish in a livewell can stress them out but feel equally as strong that a stressed out fish can be calmed down. I’m not an expert. 

[Dan N]

I let almost all bass go, but don’t feel bad eating one occasionally. I live on a walleye lake, and most people keep every walleye they catch. 
round here , plenty of guys kill bass purposely when they catch them . 
It’s quite stupid actually.