Huckfinn38 Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 Never had a crankbait get choked this bad…Somehow i got this out without much damage. Im hoping the bleeding stopped.. 5 Quote
IcatchDinks Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 That was a hungry bass! 😂 I had one choke on a much smaller crank last week. Got it out without any blood. 3 Quote
Huckfinn38 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 9 minutes ago, IcatchDinks said: That was a hungry bass! 😂 I had one choke on a much smaller crank last week. Got it out without any blood. Choked 2 Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 not a bass but it’s amazing how quickly they can swallow them. The crankbait was within 6” of the surface and on the way out when this one hit. 2 Quote
Tackleholic Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 We should all take along Diet Coke, Mountain Dew, etc. to pour on the source of bleeding. I believe it's the citric acid which constricts the blood vessels. I've seen fish recover that I was sure were goners. 1 Quote
Huckfinn38 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 5 hours ago, casts_by_fly said: not a bass but it’s amazing how quickly they can swallow them. The crankbait was within 6” of the surface and on the way out when this one hit. Well hello fellow kayaker. That one is down deep Quote
Pat Brown Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 4 hours ago, Tackleholic said: We should all take along Diet Coke, Mountain Dew, etc. to pour on the source of bleeding. I believe it's the citric acid which constricts the blood vessels. I've seen fish recover that I was sure were goners. I used to think this was a good idea, but a bunch of people on this forum have debunked this with biological precedent. I don't do it anymore. I think it was just false equivalence every time I ever saw it 'work' and I may have harmed fish I did it to. Gut hooking fish. If you fish a lot - it happens to you. No angler likes to see it - but eventually you come to expect it to some degree. Baits I have killed bass with for no reason whatsoever that I could even detect (blood pumping out of the fish profusely even though the bait was in a lip): Chatterbait Spinnerbait Buzzbait Football Jig Lipless Crankbait Squarebill Frittside Many Jerkbaits of various sizes and brands Baits I have gut hooked bass with (hooked the skin at the back of the mouth past the chompers resulting in a fish death): Weightless Plastic Football Jig Frog Popper Lipless Crankbait Squarebill Frittside Jerkbaits Basically I have seen fish that should have died do well and make it AND I've hooked fish in the lip that nicked themselves grabbing the bait in some way that was fatal. We don't have a ton of control over the situation - we just driving a hook point into an animal that's biting our presentation. What you can do if you care is bend the barbs down on your hooks. This will ultimately completely eliminate gut hooking a fish. The ones that nick themselves fatally going for the bait? Yeah I got nothing there. It's a freak show every time that happens and it sucks. The best thing we can do in any of these unfortunate situations is honor the animals life by taking her home and nourishing our bodies or our gardens with her. Leaving her for the turtles is okay too - nature spares nothing. I just prefer to take em home and feed my family. 3 Quote
Huckfinn38 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 22 minutes ago, Pat Brown said: I used to think this was a good idea, but a bunch of people on this forum have debunked this with biological precedent. I don't do it anymore. I think it was just false equivalence every time I ever saw it 'work' and I may have harmed fish I did it to. Gut hooking fish. If you fish a lot - it happens to you. No angler likes to see it - but eventually you come to expect it to some degree. Baits I have killed bass with for no reason whatsoever that I could even detect (blood pumping out of the fish profusely even though the bait was in a lip): Chatterbait Spinnerbait Buzzbait Football Jig Lipless Crankbait Squarebill Frittside Many Jerkbaits of various sizes and brands Baits I have gut hooked bass with (hooked the skin at the back of the mouth past the chompers resulting in a fish death): Weightless Plastic Football Jig Frog Popper Lipless Crankbait Squarebill Frittside Jerkbaits Basically I have seen fish that should have died do well and make it AND I've hooked fish in the lip that nicked themselves grabbing the bait in some way that was fatal. We don't have a ton of control over the situation - we just driving a hook point into an animal that's biting our presentation. What you can do if you care is bend the barbs down on your hooks. This will ultimately completely eliminate gut hooking a fish. The ones that nick themselves fatally going for the bait? Yeah I got nothing there. It's a freak show every time that happens and it sucks. The best thing we can do in any of these unfortunate situations is honor the animals life by taking her home and nourishing our bodies or our gardens with her. Leaving her for the turtles is okay too - nature spares nothing. I just prefer to take em home and feed my family. Great post. 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 5 hours ago, Tackleholic said: We should all take along Diet Coke, Mountain Dew, etc. to pour on the source of bleeding. I believe it's the citric acid which constricts the blood vessels. I've seen fish recover that I was sure were goners. It's the water in soda that clots the bleeding. Just like exposure to air is what clots our blood, exposure to water is what clots fish blood. Which is why it's important to get them back into the water as quickly as possible. The citric and phosphoric acid in most sodas can damage the fish's gills and inhibit their ability to breath. It's like if we breathed in acid vapor into our lungs. It wouldn't be good. Probably the best thing to do for the fish is to bring a pair of long reach, double joint, wire clippers, and if you can't get the hook out quickly and easily, just cut the barb off and get her back in the water. But if you catch fish, you kill fish. Even if every fish you've ever caught, you immediately released and it swam off unharmed, there's still a very high probability some of them died some time later due to injuries or trauma sustained from the catch and release. 3 2 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Pat Brown said: I used to think this was a good idea, but a bunch of people on this forum have debunked this with biological precedent. But scientific studies have also shown that 9 out of 10 bass prefer the taste of Coca-Cola to BaitFuel, so there's that. 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 This was a 5.5 pound bass caught on a 2.5 size square bill. The fish was released un harmed, and didn't bleed at all. Sometimes you get lucky and other times you eat bass fillets. Quote
Tackleholic Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Bankc said: It's the water in soda that clots the bleeding. Just like exposure to air is what clots our blood, exposure to water is what clots fish blood. Which is why it's important to get them back into the water as quickly as possible. The citric and phosphoric acid in most sodas can damage the fish's gills and inhibit their ability to breath. It's like if we breathed in acid vapor into our lungs. It wouldn't be good. Probably the best thing to do for the fish is to bring a pair of long reach, double joint, wire clippers, and if you can't get the hook out quickly and easily, just cut the barb off and get her back in the water. But if you catch fish, you kill fish. Even if every fish you've ever caught, you immediately released and it swam off unharmed, there's still a very high probability some of them died some time later due to injuries or trauma sustained from the catch and release. Any chance you could post a picture of the wire cutters you described? Quote
Dan N Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 If one is bleeding that bad, I just keep it and eat it( if legal) 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 I know I'm probably in the minority, and by no means am I saying eating bass is wrong (whether they died from being caught or put in the livewell alive and well), but I just can't bring myself to do it. I do love eating other fish, but I just have way too much respect for these fish, the sport and the joy they bring me. I don't think I could ever cut one up/eat it. I think I'd just feel weird. Again, I'm not saying it's wrong if others do it. 2 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Tackleholic said: Any chance you could post a picture of the wire cutters you described? 1 hour ago, NorthernBasser said: I know I'm probably in the minority, and by no means am I saying eating bass is wrong (whether they died from being caught or put in the livewell alive and well), but I just can't bring myself to do it. I do love eating other fish, but I just have way too much respect for these fish, the sport and the joy they bring me. I don't think I could ever cut one up/eat it. I think I'd just feel weird. Again, I'm not saying it's wrong if others do it. If a bass is going to die, I just release it back into the water. Let it serve it's purpose in the food chain. I've eaten bass before. And I'll eat bass again. But I'm not a fan of the taste of bass, so it's not usually worth cooking and cleaning for me. If it makes you feel any better, just remember, if the bass was bigger than you, it wouldn't hesitate to eat you first. 2 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted July 12, 2024 Super User Posted July 12, 2024 48 minutes ago, Bankc said: If it makes you feel any better, just remember, if the bass was bigger than you, it wouldn't hesitate to eat you first. Unless I was doused in OFF. 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted July 13, 2024 Super User Posted July 13, 2024 8 hours ago, NorthernBasser said: I know I'm probably in the minority, and by no means am I saying eating bass is wrong (whether they died from being caught or put in the livewell alive and well), but I just can't bring myself to do it. I do love eating other fish, but I just have way too much respect for these fish, the sport and the joy they bring me. I don't think I could ever cut one up/eat it. I think I'd just feel weird. Again, I'm not saying it's wrong if others do it. Try a rock bass. Lol 2 Quote
IcatchDinks Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 55 minutes ago, gimruis said: Try a rock bass. Lol I've done it. Not bad. 2 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted July 13, 2024 Super User Posted July 13, 2024 1 hour ago, gimruis said: Try a rock bass. Lol Here we go again... 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 13, 2024 Global Moderator Posted July 13, 2024 21 hours ago, casts_by_fly said: not a bass but it’s amazing how quickly they can swallow them. The crankbait was within 6” of the surface and on the way out when this one hit. Yikes!!!!! Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted July 13, 2024 Super User Posted July 13, 2024 11 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: Yikes!!!!! yeah. 10 lb supernatural as well so not thick. He hit it 2’ under the surface with 5’ of line to the rod tip. I basically boat flipped it from the hook set in one motion. Who knows what would have happened otherwise. Quote
Super User gim Posted July 13, 2024 Super User Posted July 13, 2024 13 hours ago, IcatchDinks said: I've done it. Not bad. But also not good. Just blah. Fits the personality and character of a rock bass perfectly. 2 Quote
Tackleholic Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 On 7/12/2024 at 10:23 AM, Bankc said: It's the water in soda that clots the bleeding. Just like exposure to air is what clots our blood, exposure to water is what clots fish blood. Which is why it's important to get them back into the water as quickly as possible. The citric and phosphoric acid in most sodas can damage the fish's gills and inhibit their ability to breath. It's like if we breathed in acid vapor into our lungs. It wouldn't be good. Probably the best thing to do for the fish is to bring a pair of long reach, double joint, wire clippers, and if you can't get the hook out quickly and easily, just cut the barb off and get her back in the water. But if you catch fish, you kill fish. Even if every fish you've ever caught, you immediately released and it swam off unharmed, there's still a very high probability some of them died some time later due to injuries or trauma sustained from the catch and release. Do you know the brand name of those wire cutters and where to find them on line? Thankyou. Quote
IcatchDinks Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 10 minutes ago, gimruis said: But also not good. Just blah. Fits the personality and character of a rock bass perfectly. I love your dedicated hatred towards rock bass. 😆 2 Quote
Pat Brown Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 33 minutes ago, IcatchDinks said: I love your dedicated hatred towards rock bass. 😆 Matched only by his love of golden retrievers. ♥️😂 1 Quote
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