skip casting question

[IcatchDinks]

3 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

 

A ML? Yikes!! I'd never get my bass into the canoe with that wet noodle. 

That's what nets are for, Katie. 😂

 

Me, looking at my go to rod: 

 

[Swamp Girl]

Ha, ICD! I struggle to keep them out of the weeds with my MH rods. I'd have no control with a ML rod. I used to use ML rods for smallmouth up to five pounds in Ontario and pike up to 20 pounds, but Canadian Shield lakes have far fewer weeds than the bogs and ponds I fish nowadays. 

[BrianMDTX]

I have caught 5 lb bass on that rod. It’s a heck of a fight! 😂

[Swamp Girl]

7 minutes ago, BrianMDTX said:

I have caught 5 lb bass on that rod. It’s a heck of a fight! 😂

 

I bet it would be a heckuva fight, but it's a fight I'd lose given where I fish. Give me a ML rod and open water and I'd have a fighting chance, but not in a bog.

[IcatchDinks]

@ol'crickety yeah, you'd definitely want some heavier gear on the waters you fish. And judging from your fishing reports, it lands some fish. 

[Swamp Girl]

8 minutes ago, IcatchDinks said:

@ol'crickety yeah, you'd definitely want some heavier gear on the waters you fish. And judging from your fishing reports, it lands some fish. 

 

I actually buy all my bass at a fish market and pose them in my canoe.

 

[bulldog1935]

The 5' composite-butt (one-pc) blade I showed on the previous page is a 3-power.  

The 1st kayak photo I show is a 5-1/2' S-glass 2-power stopping a healthy bass before she took me into watercress stalks.  Here's the fish.  

That said, I wouldn't be fishing either rod in frogger cover, but would go to at least a 4-power.  

The trick to find the right skipping rod for heavy cover, find the widest range you can in your shorter MH+ rod, and you'll have the right tip for skip casting.  

I don't recommend you run out and buy this 6'4" 4-power (think I bought the last stock, anyway), but note the reported range is 1/4 to 2 oz, 4-axis graphite made by Tenyru.  

[BrianMDTX]

20 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

 

I actually buy all my bass at a fish market and pose them in my canoe.

 

Always have the fish monger throw the fish to you over the counter. That way, you’re telling the truth that you caught them! 😂

[Swamp Girl]

@BrianMDTX: Ha! I'll do that!

[gim]

8 hours ago, ol'crickety said:

A ML? Yikes!! I'd never get my bass into the canoe with that wet noodle. 

 

No kidding.  I wouldn't even consider a walleye rig in those bogs and swamps.  If you thought you lost fish now, just wait until you try a ML in that jungle.

 

[Swamp Girl]

1 minute ago, gimruis said:

 

No kidding.  I wouldn't even consider a walleye rig in those bogs and swamps.  If you thought you lost fish now, just wait until you try a ML in that jungle.

 

 

The flag my canoe would fly would be all white. 

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

 

The flag my canoe would fly would be all white. 

I would have guessed 'Skull and Crossbones' myself, Katie.

 

[Swamp Girl]

Just now, MN Fisher said:

I would have guessed 'Skull and Crossbones' myself, Katie.

 

 

[Woody B]

What lure(s) are you trying to skip?   Start with a wacky rigged Senko, or Senko copy.  IMHO that's the easiest lure to learn on.  The angle is what's most important.   Go out in your yard and practice.  If you can skip on grass that's a couple inches long you can skip on water.   

[Swamp Girl]

45 minutes ago, Woody B said:

What lure(s) are you trying to skip?   Start with a wacky rigged Senko, or Senko copy.  IMHO that's the easiest lure to learn on.  The angle is what's most important.   Go out in your yard and practice.  If you can skip on grass that's a couple inches long you can skip on water.   

 

I was trying to skip my underspin. Good suggestion about the wacky worm. I'll do that. 

[MN Fisher]

46 minutes ago, Woody B said:

If you can skip on grass that's a couple inches long you can skip on water. 

If only my lawn was that short. 🥴

[Bird]

Flukes and wacky Senkos is all I skip on spinning but it's a game changer with low overhangs in the shade.

I can't skip anything on a baitcaster.

[fishhugger]

48 minutes ago, Bird said:

Flukes and wacky Senkos is all I skip on spinning but it's a game changer with low overhangs in the shade.

I can't skip anything on a baitcaster.

with spinning gear, do you use a roll cast, as suggested earlier in this thread? maybe that was for bait casters....  i'm just flinging a crank bait, trying to keep the angle low, with my spinning gear.  mixed results....  i do like how on the occasion it skips, it's this cool skip on the water sound, which i'm positive means dinner is being served to the bass?

[MN Fisher]

18 minutes ago, fishhugger said:

with spinning gear, do you use a roll cast, as suggested earlier in this thread?

Yep - to get the lure low enough to the water to skip it, a roll cast is almost mandatory.

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, fishhugger said:

with spinning gear, do you use a roll cast, as suggested earlier in this thread? maybe that was for bait casters....

 You can roll cast with spinning gear if you like but it certainly isn't necessary. When I fished out of a sit-in kayak a roll cast was impossible due to how low to the water I was sitting. Just a flick of the rod is all it takes. No different than skipping a stone. Get the angle to the water correct and it skips. I don't need to do a roll-throw with my arm to skip rocks, but more likely than not someone here will pop up to say that they do. Regardless, try it. It works fine.

[MN Fisher]

28 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

When I fished out of a sit-in kayak a roll cast was impossible due to how low to the water I was sitting.

Ya - it does depend on how close to the waterline you are. Since Bass Trek sits up higher than a standard bass boat, a roll-cast IS mandatory for me to get the lure to skip.

[gim]

I spent the morning fishing docks.  15 of the 17 bass I caught were with a 6'6" MH spinning setup and a wacky rigged stick bait.  Most of the lake I could slowly creep by the docks and wing that stick bait into the shade, but one part of the lake it was choppy where the wind was blowing in, so I had to talon in front of each dock instead.  I saw a few people sitting on their decks or in their yard and simply avoided fishing their docks.  I love piling into a 4 pounder under a dock.

 

 

[Swamp Girl]

Well done, @gimruis!

[Bazoo]

Interesting discussion. I've skipped here and there, but never really took to master it. I have however been working on mastering a nice roll cast for short range close cover accuracy. It never occurred to me to try to use a roll cast to skip.