PLine CX Premium

[heathen]

I don't like to crank with the line for one main reason... stretch. Or rather, the lack of it! Everyone has their preferences but for me I want a line with some give when I am pounding rocks for big fish. That give is what keeps the hooks in place. For my cranking I use the P-Line CXX and for frogging I use their Spectrex. For everything else, be it jerkbait, blade, spoon, worm, etc... I use the Premium.

Thanks bud. I was actually thinking maybe it was to much stretch not the lack there of, that I like in a line. Not a big fan of stretchy lines, as I build my own rods, and build my rods to give what I want not the line.

I use to use nothing but braid, but about 2 years ago, gave up on it when I went to mainly fishing shallow rivers for small mouth.

Only thing I still use braid for is jerk baits and thats only because in the waters I fish are known for "toothy critters" and I hate watching 15+ dollar jerks swim away  ;D

I am thinking of putting #6 & #8 PLine CX Premium on my spinning rods that I use for tubes/finesse fishing and then going with #12 to #17 PLine Evolution on all the baitcasters for other applications. Might even give the PLine CXX a go on a crank rod and see how I like it. What pound test would you reccomend for CXX on a cranking stick? I am thinking probably 12-14.

[Supermat]

River Warrior,

 I like to crank with 15 lb. Reason being I typically fish shallow structure (don't have to worry about getting down deep) and also because you never really know how big of a fish is going to strike at a given moment. Depending on your preferences I'd lean more toward 12 lb for general cranking as the 10 is pretty slim stuff.

Road Warrior,

 I agree with you about Ande, that is definetely a hard point to argue... they do have a record, or two, or...  ;D If you've got to compare to something that's not a bad route to go! As for my preference, it depends on the cover you're fishing but the 12 lb or 15 lb are great choices. Basically, any application that I use to use 10 lb line for I now use the 12 lb Premium, anything I use to use 12 lb for is now 15 lb. I really do feel that I can upsize this line with little to no negative effect. So much so that much of my blade fishing is done with the 25-30 lb in heavy cover and I get pounded in gin clear water. Again, sorry about before. You're obviously very knowledgable and have thought through the choices you've made. Its hard to argue with anyone who has thought through there actions whether you agree with them or not.

[hi_steel_basser]

I have a question, then. Why, if Ande tournament is the gold standard, aren't y'all fishing with Ande tournament line? I have never tried it, since I first found P-Line I have never had a reason to switch. The Only reel I have that isn't spooled with P-Line is my topwater rod. It has 17 lb Sensation. I am very happy with what I use, but if there were something undeniably better, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

[fourbizz]

I think that there is one more Pline issue to address. Most of the guys that have had bad experiences with Pline have had them with Floroclear. I use to kind of dig it, until I saw the light. That stuff has about as much resilience  in the rocks as tapioca pudding. I wouldn't let my nephews use that stuff to catch bluegill with. In a side by side comparison with CX or CXX, or any other premium line for that matter, floroclear is just plain awful. In the short time that I was using it, I bet I broke off 20 or 30 fish on the hookset. Miserable.

[roadwarrior]

Ande isn't the Gold Standard, it is just perfectly rated for line pound strength. It is an old tech line that performs very well when a specific strength of "string" is all that is required. It has always been, and remains, The Saltwater Line. No claim to abrassion resistance, low visability or super strength. It is just a line that performs as described. Unless you are after a line size record, there are many lines that have a number of attributes that you will appreciate and that perform much better than Ande.

I tried to fish Ande for awhile, but it isn't a line most people will like. I cannot think of a single thing that I liked about the line...nothing!

[lubina]

I never have any problems at all with Fluoroclear, my complain was the excessive stretch but CX took care of that. I don't use anything lighter than 12lbs and that is for my deep cranking but my average depth is 10 feet, with water infested with stumps, rocks, fallen wood and submerged shopping carts anything less will break before even seen a fish.

[fishfool2]

IMHO, p-line cx is a really good line for spinning applications, low memory,small diameter  decent strength. But, remember to retie after catching fish with it.  I've had issues with breakoffs when I neglected to retie after cathcing a few fish. I used to use it a ton with slider fishing 8-10 lb test.  Perhaps the same thing can be said about almost any line, but that's been my experience with cx over the last 10 years or so.

[Guest avid]

I did alot of shopping for Yo-Zuri ultra soft but could not find any so bought the Pline cxx in 6# test for spinning.

the diameter is .0092 which, assuming kent dropped the first zero, puts it about the 7# mark v the ande

On the back of the box are these claims

extra strong

virtually invisible

extra limp

high breaking strength

gret castablity

low memory

soft and supple

high knot strenght

Increased sensitivity

extra abrasion resistant.

What say ye to these pretty amazing claims?   These are EXACTLY the factors that matter most to me.  

"Low stretch" was the only claim I was looking for but did not find.

[fourbizz]

Avid, I'm a little confused by some of those stats. Did you get the CX Premium , or the CXX Extra Strong?

[The_Natural]

Avid, I'm a little confused by some of those stats. Did you get the CX Premium , or the CXX Extra Strong?

I'm sure it is CXX; the diameter he quoted seems about right (I know the 10lb is .011).  He is reading off of the back of the box, so I'm sure Pline claims it has about every desirable property a line can have   :).  In the 6lb class, I bet even CXX doesn't have noticeable memory, and CXX's tensile strength or abrasion resistance hasn't ever been in question.  I've never used CXX in 6lb, but I can imagine you score some extra bites with that thin of a line.   8lb is as small as I have the cojones to go!

[-Drums-]

CX Premium is my favorite line.  I love the stuff.  I fished it on all of my baitcast setups all through 2006.  It has less stretch (and therefore a little more noticeably sensitive, when compared to Trilene XL).  I used 15lb. test for pitching jigs & soft plastics into heavy cover (mostly wood, some rocks) all season, and only had one break off, and this was clearly due to me not checking my line after catching several fish.  User error, not a product issue.

I recently got a Team Daiwa Light & Tough flipping stick and a Revo S (from Santa) and thought I'd give the CXX stuff a try--20lb.  Verdict so far:  thumbs way down (for me).  That stuff is like fishing with speaker cable.  It has the memory of an elephant.  I will very shortly be switching that setup to CX premium, or maybe the new Evolution stuff.

[Ozarker]

I did alot of shopping for Yo-Zuri ultra soft but could not find any so bought the Pline cxx in 6# test for spinning.

the diameter is .0092 which, assuming kent dropped the first zero, puts it about the 7# mark v the ande

On the back of the box are these claims

extra strong

virtually invisible

extra limp

high breaking strength

gret castablity

low memory

soft and supple

high knot strenght

Increased sensitivity

extra abrasion resistant.

What say ye to these pretty amazing claims?   These are EXACTLY the factors that matter most to me.  

"Low stretch" was the only claim I was looking for but did not find.

P Line CXX X-tra Strong is one of my favorite lines.  I have used the 6# on spinning alot and without any trouble.  I also use Yo-Zuri Hybrid (not the ultra soft) in 6# which has a larger diameter than the P-Line.  I have no trouble with this line either.  Even after it has sat on my Daiwa 2000 series spinning reel for months.  I alway hear people complain about line manageablility on spinning reels and how P-line and Hybrid are too wirey.  People just need to learn to spool there reels properly.

Even more important than spooling your reel properly is to use the trick of letting your line out without any lure or bait on the end and then reeling it back in.  This works best in water but also on land.  I believe the technique has been discussed on here before.

[KenDammit28]

there's just so many kinds of P-Line that I don't even know what I really need to buy to fit my needs.  

CX, CXX, Evolution, Flouroclear, Halo, PF....

[T-rig]

I think that "ignorant" comment was not called for!

*** Moderator Note ***

The comment was NOT called for, but has already been addressed.

No harm, no foul.

-Kent a.k.a. roadwarrior

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[roadwarrior]

avid,

I hope you follow-up your post with the results of your test. This is what I am looking for in a fishing line and what I think I have found in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft. If this applies to the P-Line you are trying, I'm all about it! I'm always on the hunt for the "Next New Thing!"

Keep us posted, my friend.

[KU_Bassmaster.]

If you find something you like better, PLEASE send me an PM. I am always interested in something better.

Gamma Copolymer.  I tried it last year on an experiment basis on one of my rigs.  I had no problems with Yo-Zuri I just wanted to try something else.  I like it a lot and it's a step above Yo-Zuri across the board.  It is VERY strong and knew it over-tested but I could never find info about.  Finally the info is published in the New Master Fishing Catalog from Cabela's.  They have also added new colors.  It is now on ALL my rigs.