Ultimate junk fishing rod: 5" Senko to 6" Magdraft

[Bigbox99]

What is the ultimate junk fishing kayak rod?  Something that can not just cast but skip a 5" senko and cast up to a 6" Magdraft.  I am using a gen 1 Orochi EMTF which was the Braillist of that 1st gen line.  At 7'5" F5 power rated for 3/8 to 1 ounce it struggles a little bit with a 6" Magdraft and a 5" senko will cast straight out or pitch just fine but won't load the road deeply enough for my liking to skip forcing me to adjust my timing.  Also at 7'5" the rod is a little long for skipping docks.  

[webertime]

Perfect Pitch 

[MiceNReets]

42 minutes ago, webertime said:

Perfect Pitch 

 

I’d also like to suggest the Okuma TCS 7’3 Heavy frog/swimbait rod.   It’s an incredibly versatile rod and I give it the edge over the perfect pitch.  Just slightly.  

[softwateronly]

The 3 rods I have that could do it in the order I think they'd be best at it;

 

Steez AGS 7'2H Power Pitch

 

 

Dobyns Xtasy 755

Expride 7'3XH

 

 

scott

 

[Bigbox99]

Can these heavy or extra heavies really cast a 3/8 oz "weightless" soft plastic?  

[MiceNReets]

7 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

Can these heavy or extra heavies really cast a 3/8 oz "weightless" soft plastic?  

Oh that Okuma TCS sure can.    The Levante perfect pitch can too.   Nice soft tip.    I haven’t used the Orochi xx one yet 

[webertime]

Perfect Pitch definitely can toss a senko

[FishTank]

P5 Super Destroyer for me. 

[PhishLI]

On 6/12/2024 at 6:53 AM, Bigbox99 said:

What is the ultimate junk fishing kayak rod? 

This is it for me. It's got some tip, so it throws light baits well, but will chuck 1 1/2 oz nicely too. I'm surprised by how versatile it is. If the new one uses the same blank as the previous gen silver ones, you should be good. It also has a downward-facing loop hook keeper, so no un-skinhooking skin hooked plastics, which is just peachy, IMO.

Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Rods | Tackle Warehouse

TTEL691HFB

6'9"

Heavy

Fast

16-30lb

1/4-1 1/2oz

8+Tip

14"

Cast A - EVA

[Bandersnatch]

Rod doesn’t exist in my opinion, a 5 inch senko is too light for a rod that casts a magdraft. Now, a 6 inch senko is a much different story 

4 hours ago, MiceNReets said:

Oh that Okuma TCS sure can.    The Levante perfect pitch can too.   Nice soft tip.    I haven’t used the Orochi xx one yet 

No 

[softwateronly]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

Rod doesn’t exist in my opinion, a 5 inch senko is too light for a rod that casts a magdraft. Now, a 6 inch senko is a much different story 

No 

 

 

Steez AGS Power Pitch 1/4-1.5oz delivers what it claims.

 

scott

[djhands]

JDM steez stratofortress 68.  Amazing rod from throwing DRT tiny klash to 1/4 ounce swim jigs.  

[Logan S]

Megabass XX Perfect Pitch...And it would do both of those things well.  

 

That rod is one of a kind.  

 

 

[casts_by_fly]

falcon head turner or Heavy cover jig.  Both will do it.  On the HCJ I'd want an SV or MGL type spool for the lighter end.  For the head turner I'd want the expert model which is just a little punchier.  The head turner is 6'10" and the HCJ is 7'4" so also some difference in your length preference.

[LootyDjibouti]

I love that as a kayak angler I have three rods already mentioned ITT... Perfect Pitch, Head Turner, and Tat Elite Skippin Jig. All great rods. 

[PhishLI]

18 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

Can these heavy or extra heavies really cast a 3/8 oz "weightless" soft plastic?

I've thrown weightless 5" dingers just fine on the 6'9" Tat Elite I linked to. No problemo, and that was while using a BB1 Pro with 50 lb braid. A 5" senko is a skosh heavier, so even better. When I had my Zillion on that rod it was obviously better with those weights. a 1/4oz jig and trailer loaded nicely and flew.

[Bandersnatch]

17 hours ago, softwateronly said:

 

 

Steez AGS Power Pitch 1/4-1.5oz delivers what it claims.

 

scott

I have the power pitch with a steez ct sv on it. Will it throw a five inch senko? Yeah, will it throw it will, definitely not. 

[Rockhopper]

I kayak fish mostly with a 6'9" Okuma Scott Martin APC with a Citica.  Great combo, the shorter rod is great for the yak, can throw just about any bait I need to from the yak, and doesn't break the bank.  I save my good stuff for the boat.