Frog experts, talk to about long frog rods.

[Bandersnatch]

Bobby B swears his 7’9 I rod is way better due to its length. Thoughts on its length of something like the 7’3xh expride ?

[Deephaven]

Mine is 7'10" and wish I had gone longer.

[MN Fisher]

^ DH is our resident frog fan here in MN...does quite well at it too...one to listen to on that technique.

[Bandersnatch]

13 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Mine is 7'10" and wish I had gone longer.

What rod ?

Just now, Bandersnatch said:

What rod ?

And why does the extra length help?

[Deephaven]

8 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

What rod ?

And why does the extra length help?

Mine is a custom Loomis 904 that I extended to 7'10".  At the time my rod lockers were only 8' long so it was so they could fit.  As for why it helps?  Casting distance but more importantly when you connect with a fish you can get it up and over the slop quickly.  You need both power and length to do that.  In addition I find the longer rod a bit easier to get the right action on the frog from a distance.  I should add that  mine is older so the 904 is not the same blank as today, but even stiffer.  It is significantly more stout than the 844.  Some of the length in my rods are also eaten up by the butt.  I am 6'7" so I have the butt sections built longer to better tuck under my forearms.

[gim]

10 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

^ DH is our resident frog fan here in MN...does quite well at it too...one to listen to on that technique.

 

He only THINKS he's the resident frog guy.

 

[bulldog1935]

In my river kayak niche, I fish so close, can't use longer than 6' frogger rod.  

 

 

However, I can see from a boat that you almost can't get too long, depending on how much rod you're willing to hold up.  Simply, a longer rod moves more line quicker when you move the rod tip.  The added leverage also lifts better.  

 

Fishing the flats from boat in the '90s and naughties, I went to long steelhead rods, 8'2" to 9'.  

Aside from long casts getting away from hull slap, the longer rod let me react to keep weighted baits in the zone above the grass.  

[casts_by_fly]

While I appreciate the benefits of a longer rod noted above, I can't stand to use a longer rod for frogs.  The extra length and heft kill my wrist in short order.  I don't even like to use my 7'3" for them.  My rod of choice is 6'11" and was designed by Jason Christie for frogs.  Given my choice I'd lighten the tip just a little for casting purposes, but otherwise its a perfect frog rod for me.  With 50# braid I have no issues making a 40 yard bomb and setting the hook at distance.  I'm not fishing heavy slop as much so getting them head up on top isn't as critical for me.

[Bandersnatch]

Anybody use a long frog rod?

[ATA]

I am no frog expert, But I always used long rodfor forgoing to be able to make long cast, My first frog rod was Curado XXH and now I use 7-6 Dobyns, But still using Curado reel for frogging. and line is 65lb maxcuatro straight and I intend ti stick to this set up.

[Bandersnatch]

8 hours ago, ATA said:

I am no frog expert, But I always used long rodfor forgoing to be able to make long cast, My first frog rod was Curado XXH and now I use 7-6 Dobyns, But still using Curado reel for frogging. and line is 65lb maxcuatro straight and I intend ti stick to this set up.

Thanks ! It worth noting I used a single reel soool worth of 50lb maxcuatro 50lb braid for four years on a expride 73xh frogging in the heaviest cover. The 50 never let me down. I used to be a 65lb guy but I really enjoy the casyability of that 50z maxcuarto is great stuff 

[JackstrawIII]

I use a 7'1. 

 

I prioritize casting accuracy over distance. I also find slightly shorter rods easier to "walk" when needed. With that said, a longer rod would help move the fish faster after a bite. 

[Deephaven]

On 5/20/2024 at 9:38 AM, gimruis said:

 

He only THINKS he's the resident frog guy.

 

I don't think I am an expert at all, but if I had my way I would fish frogs 100% of the time.