I’m looking for a good spinning rod for deep diving crankbaits and jerkbaits

[Basskiller1232]

100$ to 130$ 

 

I don’t know how to use a baitcaster 

[dodgeguy]

IMHO spinning is not for deep diving crankbaits. A low gear ratio low line retrieve bait caster is what you need. Deep cranks on a spinning rod will tire you out fast as spinning reels generally take in to much line. Jerkbaits on the other hand are fine with spinning.its a totally different technique that's not as stressful. Get a 6 ratio lews bbq pro with the externally adjustable centrifugal brake and learn how to cast. In 2 weeks you should be fine. Have someone who knows how teach you.

[casts_by_fly]

How deep diving?  I used to call all crank baits ‘deep divers’ when I was young. And there’s a big difference between a 20’ diver and a 10’ diver. 

[Big Hands]

Probably not what you're hoping to read (hear?).

 

Deep diving crankbaits and jerkbaits. . . .

 

Personally, I would rather have two separate rods that don't cost that much, but each would be better suited to the task being performed. For me, the overlap of function isn't there. 

 

Deep diving crankbaits: longer than 7' (much longer for me, like 7'6" to 7'11"), MH power, moderate or mod-fast action. 6:1 or 7:1 gear ratio. 10 lbs line would be the minimum for throwing deep diving crankbaits for me, but normally 15 lbs line is where I am most comfortable throwing baits with multiple trebles deep into Davey Jones' locker.

 

Jerkbaits: less than 7' rod (6'10"), medium power and fast or even extra fast action. The medium power will add some more bend to keep fish treble hooks in place once a fish is hooked. I prefer 8-10 lbs test line for this most of the time for baits like the Vision 110. Some folks are OK with mod or mod-fast rods for jerkbaits, but I am not among those folks. Maybe you are. 

 

Throwing a jerkbait on a spinning rod would be more preferrable than a deep diving crankbait, and a deep diving crankbait would be a pretty good bait to learn to use a baitcaster with.

 

Spinning reels for chucking and winding. . . . certainly not ideal. There will be tradeoffs for the convenience of using a spinning rod for this purpose. Line twist being one of them. If you're in a boat you can alleviate this as needed.

 

So, basically, IMHO, a rod that would be pretty good for one wouldn't be good for the other, and a rod that shoots for the middle ground wouldn't really be great for either, and I'd rather avoid that if I could. 

[Basskiller1232]

1 hour ago, Big Hands said:

Probably not what you're hoping to read (hear?).

 

Deep diving crankbaits and jerkbaits. . . .

 

Personally, I would rather have two separate rods that don't cost that much, but each would be better suited to the task being performed. For me, the overlap of function isn't there. 

 

Deep diving crankbaits: longer than 7' (much longer for me, like 7'6" to 7'11"), MH power, moderate or mod-fast action. 6:1 or 7:1 gear ratio. 10 lbs line would be the minimum for throwing deep diving crankbaits for me, but normally 15 lbs line is where I am most comfortable throwing baits with multiple trebles deep into Davey Jones' locker.

 

Jerkbaits: less than 7' rod (6'10"), medium power and fast or even extra fast action. The medium power will add some more bend to keep fish treble hooks in place once a fish is hooked. I prefer 8-10 lbs test line for this most of the time for baits like the Vision 110. Some folks are OK with mod or mod-fast rods for jerkbaits, but I am not among those folks. Maybe you are. 

 

Throwing a jerkbait on a spinning rod would be more preferrable than a deep diving crankbait, and a deep diving crankbait would be a pretty good bait to learn to use a baitcaster with.

 

Spinning reels for chucking and winding. . . . certainly not ideal. There will be tradeoffs for the convenience of using a spinning rod for this purpose. Line twist being one of them. If you're in a boat you can alleviate this as needed.

 

So, basically, IMHO, a rod that would be pretty good for one wouldn't be good for the other, and a rod that shoots for the middle ground wouldn't really be great for either, and I'd rather avoid that if I could. 

Ok thank you 

I will try to look for a good baitcaster 

what size is good ?

What’s a good rod for under 120$

[PTasker15]

54 minutes ago, Basskiller1232 said:

Ok thank you 

I will try to look for a good baitcaster 

what size is good ?

What’s a good rod for under 120$

Hard to pick one personally for that price for deep divers but I'll throw a few good ones out there

 

Look for (in my opinion)

7 foot 3 plus

Mod-Fast or slower (moderate preferred)

Composite or glass blank

 

13 Fishing DEFY 7 foot 9 Crankbait rod (~80)

Shimano SLX 7 foot 4 Glass Crankbait rod (100)

[dodgeguy]

9 hours ago, Basskiller1232 said:

Ok thank you 

I will try to look for a good baitcaster 

what size is good ?

What’s a good rod for under 120$

lews bb1 6 speed for cranks. there are none better.

[MediumMouthBass]

I only have advice on the deep cranking, i do it alot and have 3 different setups for it. Along with about 4-6 3700 trays full of deep divers. One of my favorite ways to fish for bass in the summer.

 

You will need a casting combo to do it, or you will wear yourself out trying to do it with a spinning rod and reel.

 

A proper casting combo for deep cranking will let you cast very far and with ease, it will also handle the heavier lures better. With a spinning rod it can be done but itll be very unpleasant after awhile.

Think of it as trying to cut the grass on a 20 acre farm with a small push mower when you couldve just done it with a riding mower instead.

 

For a deep crankbait say you can cast 100 feet, well the first 25 feet of the retrieve might just be getting it to its listed depth, so between your start and end of the retrieve you are only getting down to depth for about 40-60 feet. The maths not 100% since im only giving this as an example but its close enough.

On a spinning rod you wont be able to cast nearly as far, so then you are at about 15-30 feet.

Distance is the #1 priority for me when fishing this way, easy casting is 2nd.

 

Baitcasters are easy to learn on if you watch enough youtube videos and practice, a good 7'4"-7'6" rod thats Medium heavy depending on the lure weigh ratings paired with a Lews BB1 Pro (the best cranking reel ever made) it has a deeper spool and holds a ton of line, what does that do? Lets you cast even further.

7 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

lews bb1 6 speed for cranks. there are none better.

Take this advice on this reel, they are a bit expensive but think of it as a long term investment that will help you out a ton if you really want to get serious about deep cranking.

 

And use 8-10lb mono, it will help the crankbait get down even deeper.

 

Dobyns, Ark, Falcon, Lews all have good cranking rods between $80-130.

There isnt one thats best, they are all good and your choice really depends on what color you would prefer, and for the handle would you rather cork, rubber, or foam? And the most important, the weight rating.

Figure out what deep divers you want to use and make a list of how much they weigh, that should help narrow down the rod.

 

Baitcasters can be intimidating to alot of people, but theres no reason to be. If set up properly, and using mono or braid, with the correct rod that can load the lures being throw. Add some youtube tutorials or some advice here on Bass Resource you can learn very quickly.

[roadwarrior]

Maybe you can find this on sale:

https://stcroixrods.com/collections/freshwater/products/mojo-bass-spinning-1

I would prefer MHF, but MF will work.

[casts_by_fly]

14 hours ago, Basskiller1232 said:

Ok thank you 

I will try to look for a good baitcaster 

what size is good ?

What’s a good rod for under 120$

 

You didn't answer how deep you mean for a crankbait.  There's a big difference in the rod required for a 20' diver vs a 10' diver.  If you say its a 10' crankbait you're looking at then I'm going to tell you that you can do it with a spinning rod for both presentations.  Also, for a baitcaster (which I still would suggest you learn) a 20' crankbait is going to require a 'H' rated rod while a 10' only needs a M or MH. 

 

If you want a baitcaster for $120 to do modest crankbaits then the Falcon deep runner in the Bucoo SR series ($99) would be a good choice.  It will throw a DT6 up to a DT14 or so.  And, its a pretty solid rod for other moving baits (spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, buzzbaits, etc).  If you don't mind it being $129 then you can bump to the Lowrider series and get a little better blank and full cork.  The 7'3" bladed jig rod would be a good one as would the 7'6" cranker II.

[Big Hands]

4 hours ago, Basskiller1232 said:

Ok thank you 

I will try to look for a good baitcaster 

what size is good ?

What’s a good rod for under 120$

For deep cranking:

Tatula TTU721MHRB-G is on sale on the jungle site for $120

St. Croix MGC74MHM "Big Cranker" is on sale from St. Croix directly for $125. And, there are Daiwa 100/150 (Tatula or Fuego) or Shimano SLX 150 reels that would do well enough for this, if it was me, I would look for a good deal on a lightly used Curado 200K with a 6.2:1 gear ratio.

 

For Jerkbait fishing on a budget, the Shimano SLXCX610MA retails for $99. An SLX 70 MGL from Japan is about $125 and would pair very nicely with this rod for throwing jerkbaits.

[new2BC4bass]

On 5/6/2024 at 8:00 PM, casts_by_fly said:

How deep diving?  I used to call all crank baits ‘deep divers’ when I was young. And there’s a big difference between a 20’ diver and a 10’ diver. 

I have a few that will do over 10' but lucky if I've used more than one of them.  Normally I'm fishing shallow water or over weed beds.  I know I don't fish them properly, but 1) I hate losing lures ($), and 2) I hate removing grass or other junk from the hooks on almost every cast.

 

Not the best for distance, but I picked up an Aetos 6'6" MLM for $75 when Pure Fishing was closing them out.  A $199 rod.  That rod and a Pixy are pure pleasure to use.  And it doesn't take 20 yards to get 5' deep. 

 

[Brian11719]

I don't know that you are going to find one that does both of these in the same rod. Most jerkbaits (at least the ones I throw) are 3/8-1/2oz. A typical deep diving crankbait (eg. a 6xd) is usually about 1oz. I also like a spinning rod for jerkbaits, so I got one that I use for poppers, squarebills, 1/2 lipless and jerkbaits. For larger cranks I use my bladed jig rod, which is a casting rod and also works out (pretty) well for 3/4oz lipless and 6xds. For a smaller one I'd recommend the mojo bass JOS72MM or Lews TP1-BlackTP1B72MHS. These go up to 5/8 or 3/4oz lures so if by deep diving you mean something like a RkCrawler 55 or a River2Sea Tactical Bassin' DD one of these might work. You can find others out there that will go higher on the lure weight rating and might work better for deep crankbaits, but trying to use it as a jerkbait rod might not end up working out so well. Good luck.