I think more bass need to watch YouTube videos!

[Team9nine]

Just now, thediscochef said:

 

 

That’s the one…The most photoshopped bird in the world 😆

[F14A-B]

Haha, Bass can’t read. They are rebellious by nature. 🤣In the mid nineties I got on a pattern on a lake here in Indiana, in December, air temp got up to 28, water was 41. I was using a casting jig and trailer casting from deeper water into rocky/ boulder like shoreline, Sun was up about midday, I worked my jig thru the rocky area and would burn it back to the boat and BAM! 3 pounder , I repeated that and saw another big fish follow it to the boat and turn away. I cast again & again, I caught 14 pounds of bass that day, basically cookie cutter bass that would strike only at high speed retrieve.. go figure. 😂 basically breaking the rule of slow fishing in cold water. Totally accidental on my part!  I guess I should add, I was fishing for smallmouth and caught largemouth 😂

[F14A-B]

^^^Strike king jig, dark brown with orange and a pork trailer, dark brown, claw pattern. Hand sharpened hook. 

[T-Billy]

I most generally start shallow and work out, even in cold water. Eagles or no eagles, bass like overhead cover.

[Zcoker]

I don't even see how some these Bass Tubers come up with some of this content. I mean, some of them have been on the Tube for a while and make multi videos a week. After a few years of doing that, when do ya run out of things to say? Some of them are young and haven't even fished that long, if at all. They seem like they are grasping at straws for content, literally, picking up crumbs for the sake of putting something together. I watched a vid just the other day. Half the vid was about the dude getting up, makin coffee, gettin in his car, starting it up, and then driving to where he was going to fish. HALF the video! The other half was next to nothing in actual knowledge about bass fishing, just rambling or the classical "come watch me fish" format. Shame to see it get that way. Many, many new comers rely solely on YouTube for their knowledge base. Guess it comes down to weeding the videos out to find the good stuff, which can be a daunting task in itself! 

[TnRiver46]

@Zcoker, they just talk about livescope again……

[T-Billy]

Lots of times, what you read and watch won't apply to the lakes you fish anyway. Every lake fishes differently. The majority of LM in one of my local lakes spend the summer offshore chasing shad like brown bass are apt to do. No brownies in that lake. It's a good lake during pre-spawn, and fall, but brutal tuff all summer long. No other lake around me fishes anything like it. Ultimately, there's just no substitute for time on the water. Get out there and try stuff, and over time you'll figger out what works for YOU on YOUR waters. 😉

I'll add: There's nearly always some green fish up in shallow cover anytime the water's above 38 degrees IME.

[Mike L]

22 minutes ago, T-Billy said:

 Ultimately, there's just no substitute for time on the water. Get out there and try stuff, and over time you'll figger out what works for YOU on YOUR waters. 😉

 

That’s what I’ve been saying forever, and again earlier. 
There are no short cuts. 

 

Watching a video of someone without knowledge of the waters you fish giving advise by fishing his waters isn’t trying to educate anyone. 
 

Its self promotion 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Swamp Girl]

I think Tim, Z, and Mike are right. I'm going to focus on the water I fish and learn, HOPEFULLY, more and more about those ponds and bogs and their bass, rather than watching a video to learn about my water and its fish. 

[Fishingmickey]

9 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

I think Tim, Z, and Mike are right. I'm going to focus on the water I fish and learn, HOPEFULLY, more and more about those ponds and bogs and their bass, rather than watching a video to learn about my water and its fish. 

You do pretty dang good, from what I can see in your catch pic's, Ol'Crickety. A five or six pounder in Maine is a truly big bass.

FM

[T-Billy]

I'm a K.I.S.S. fan also. While it's fun to try new baits, and once in awhile we run across one that earns it's place in steady rotation, for the most part just rollin with a few proven baits is the most productive way to go.

[Team9nine]

7 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

@A-Jay is there any study that informs us that 10% of the lake holds 90% of the fish? We have tournaments being won by catching fish roaming in open water when they “shouldn’t be.”

I’ve never come across a study that directly tried to answer that question, but you can certainly find a ton of references to that saying, including people like Paul Johnson, who was Berkley’s head of R&D prior to Keith Jones. He was an avid diver and spent a lot of time researching all things fishing while underwater.
 

But if you wanted to literally answer that question in regard to bass, the answer can be determined, and it turns out that 99.9% of the lake holds no bass, and they all live in less than 0.1% of the available water…and that’s just based on surface acres, not volume, and assuming a bass occupies 2 sq. ft. of space at any given time (like I said, literally). If my math is correct, and you back calculate out to bass occupying 10% of the available water, every bass in the lake could have their own 800 sq. ft. playground 😆

[PaulVE64]

Mine are very predictable.

Always not where I fish.

Actually,

I caught 2 smallies and lost 2 jigs all on the same rock just 10' off the bank. At lunch today.

[AlabamaSpothunter]

Dr. Keith Jones did some pretty amazing research while he was working for Berkeley.  

 

Bass after dark has him on a scent episode, great listen.  

[MIbassyaker]

14 minutes ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

Dr. Keith Jones did some pretty amazing research while he was working for Berkeley.  

 

Bass after dark has him on a scent episode, great listen.  

 

Highly-recommended reading for the scientifically-curious (if you can find them):

 

[king fisher]

The You Tube videos I watch of bass in Mexico, only show giant bass being caught every cast on whatever lure the video makers are promoting.  They don't show all the work the guides do to keep up with the bass day to day.  They don't show how slow the fishing can be, and how at lunch time the guides all get together and exchange information in order to put the clients on to fish.

       Seasonal patterns in Mexico are hard to figure out mainly because the typical temperature related life cycle is off.  Water levels, commercial fishing pressure and spawn cycles of Tilapia have more to do with where the bass will be than temperature or time of year.  All the videos made here only show the fantastic numbers and size of bass, but don't go in to any detail, on where the bass are or why they are there.  

      It is frustrating to get skunked in bass fishing paradise, but it does happen.  Bass will always be around their prey, and some place  safe from predator's, but that can be almost anywhere.  Time on the water, and being observant is the two biggest factors to success.  I try an be as observant as possible, but time on the water is very limited.  

      Making a video while fishing with  a guide  does not in any way paint an accurate picture of what bass fishing here is really like.  Yes the bass are big and plentiful, but they are also unpredictable and as frustrating as any bass in the States.

     I love watching bass fishing videos almost as much as the Bait Monkey does, and I am always trying to apply what I see on the videos to my fishing, but at the end of the day. I have to use the information that is right in front of my face on the water.

      Also there should be a law against showing giant bass being caught on lures that cost more than $10, on videos made available to the public.  Videos showing bass being caught on Glide Baits should have to include a disclaimer informing the person watching the video, that glide baits are addictive, expensive and can be harmful to your financial stability, and or marriage.

[Pat Brown]

15 hours ago, Team9nine said:

I’ve never come across a study that directly tried to answer that question, but you can certainly find a ton of references to that saying, including people like Paul Johnson, who was Berkley’s head of R&D prior to Keith Jones. He was an avid diver and spent a lot of time researching all things fishing while underwater.
 

But if you wanted to literally answer that question in regard to bass, the answer can be determined, and it turns out that 99.9% of the lake holds no bass, and they all live in less than 0.1% of the available water…and that’s just based on surface acres, not volume, and assuming a bass occupies 2 sq. ft. of space at any given time (like I said, literally). If my math is correct, and you back calculate out to bass occupying 10% of the available water, every bass in the lake could have their own 800 sq. ft. playground 😆

 

 

Actual math wins every time but essentially bass are where you find em and catching em is gonna be a repertoire of confusion unique to you!

[Swamp Girl]

51 minutes ago, king fisher said:

The You Tube videos I watch of bass in Mexico, only show giant bass being caught every cast on whatever lure the video makers are promoting.  They don't show all the work the guides do to keep up with the bass day to day.  They don't show how slow the fishing can be, and how at lunch time the guides all get together and exchange information in order to put the clients on to fish.

       Seasonal patterns in Mexico are hard to figure out mainly because the typical temperature related life cycle is off.  Water levels, commercial fishing pressure and spawn cycles of Tilapia have more to do with where the bass will be than temperature or time of year.  All the videos made here only show the fantastic numbers and size of bass, but don't go in to any detail, on where the bass are or why they are there.  

      It is frustrating to get skunked in bass fishing paradise, but it does happen.  Bass will always be around their prey, and some place  safe from predator's, but that can be almost anywhere.  Time on the water, and being observant is the two biggest factors to success.  I try an be as observant as possible, but time on the water is very limited.  

      Making a video while fishing with  a guide  does not in any way paint an accurate picture of what bass fishing here is really like.  Yes the bass are big and plentiful, but they are also unpredictable and as frustrating as any bass in the States.

     I love watching bass fishing videos almost as much as the Bait Monkey does, and I am always trying to apply what I see on the videos to my fishing, but at the end of the day. I have to use the information that is right in front of my face on the water.

      Also there should be a law against showing giant bass being caught on lures that cost more than $10, on videos made available to the public.  Videos showing bass being caught on Glide Baits should have to include a disclaimer informing the person watching the video, that glide baits are addictive, expensive and can be harmful to your financial stability, and or marriage.

 

King, the misrepresentation of fishing success, i.e. portraying it as a big bass on every cast, is why I respect Bass Resource anglers who share their strike-outs in their trip reports. If you only show your great days, you're really not portraying your angling life, with all its challenges and disappointments.

 

So, if I go out and catch zero fish, I share that. If I catch one bass, I share that. Then, when I go out and catch a big bass or a 20 lb.+ bag, that means something. I walked the long, hard road to reach that sublime moment. 

 

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Time on the water, and being observant is the two biggest factors to success. 

 

So true. Sometimes I get caught up in my head, thinking about what I'm supposed to be fishing and where I'm supposed to be fishing and how I'm supposed to be fishing, according to this YouTuber or that article, INSTEAD of keeping my head up and my eyes focused on the moment. I can read water. Paddling thousands of miles has taught me to read water like most people read words. 

 

[Team9nine]

On 4/22/2024 at 9:41 AM, ol'crickety said:

 

And I'm not going to stay locked onto big fish. I told @thediscocheflast night that I've caught six new PBs in the last year. I went from 5.5 to 6.5 to 6.71 to 6.75 to a likely, unweighed seven-pounder to the unweighed beshemoth I caught last week. That's good enough for me and I frankly think I could fish another ten years and not catch another as big as she was.

 

I don't need to catch an ever bigger bass.* I want to launch my canoe and have a busy, happy boat. In the process of catching many bass, big bass will naturally come aboard, but I don't want to bear the pressure of needing a new PB and another new PB and yet another new PB.

This is pretty much me when it comes to bass (but not crappie 😆). I am focusing a little more on overall better quality bass, what I refer to as ‘the 10 percent,” since I’m on all new waters with a longer growing season, still trying to figure out what makes these lakes tick, but I’m not fixated on that aspect of it. I’m always happy with “bites” regardless.

[Woody B]

It's no secret that I'm not much of a youtube watcher.   There's no requirement for a video to contain factual information.  I've seen youtube videos about things I'm pretty familiar with (auto repair, wood working/guitars, music) that are downright dangerous.  It's kinda like sifting through fly droppings to try and find some pepper.  

 

The bottom like it, there's probably a BUNCH of good information out there, but there's some bad mixed in with it.   

 

Every lake, pond, river, stream ect is different.   Every day is different also.  

 

I believe, at least in the waters I fish there's "fish" in 90% of the water, however, there's active Bass in 10%, or even less of it.   

[MIbassyaker]

The thing about "10% of the water holding 90% of the fish" is just a nugget of received wisdom from typical angler experience that they don't catch fish in most of the lake.  

 

It is probably just another version of the Pareto Principle that "80% of consequences come from 20% of causes", which shows up in a lot of different contexts related to distribution of resources or productivity.

 

Or possibly Sturgeon's Law, which simply states that "90% of everything is crap"

[Swamp Girl]

13 hours ago, Woody B said:

I believe, at least in the waters I fish there's "fish" in 90% of the water, however, there's active Bass in 10%, or even less of it. 

 

12 hours ago, MIbassyaker said:

The thing about "10% of the water holding 90% of the fish" is just a nugget of received wisdom from typical angler experience that they don't catch fish in most of the lake.  

 

I agree with both of these. I don't think 90% of all water is barren. I do think that there are stretches with far fewer fish to no fish, but most water holds some fish. However, as Woody B noted, when it comes to active fish, the percentage of water worth fishing at that moment shrinks.