Jeffrey Walker Posted April 18, 2024 Posted April 18, 2024 I'm looking to add a flipping and pitching NOT punching rodS to my lineup this year. i'm looking for the most sensitive option, most of my rods are P5, NRX, or steez AGS but open to any others i fish out of a kayak so i'm thinking shorter would be better. I'm amal thinking that af least one should be a little softer to allow for subtle underhand casts and let the rod slog the bait out as opposed to a formal cast. Most of my lakes are covered with Spadderdock and wood and laydowns, so needs to be strong enough but also soft enough to make gentle casts. What rod and reel combos would come to mind? Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted April 18, 2024 Super User Posted April 18, 2024 Do you mean true flipping, aka long rod and not even using the reel really? It doesn’t sound like it but that’s a specific rod. im going to assume you don’t mean flipping but mean pitching to cover. Not sure what you consider short or long and what weight of bait you’re talking about. That said, id suggest a falcon Cara amistad (7’3” 3/8- 1 1/2oz heavy fast) as a starting point. Mine is a 1/2- 3/4 jig type rod. I’ll pitch an ounce weight with a chunk of plastic into heavy grass and pads (not quite punching but heavy pitching). It will do heavier if you want and its rated to 1.5 oz. I’ve fished mine with 50 braid and 20 lb big game. Both good choices that fish a little differently but both fish well. 1 Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted April 19, 2024 Author Posted April 19, 2024 Thanks for the info, i mean pitching. Not looking for a long rod Quote
Bandersnatch Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Need to understand weights and cover to give good rod options. I can flip/pitch (nobody asked about actual flipping rods , sorry old guys) anywhere from a 843 light medium heavy In open water to stumps with an 1/4 ounce all the way to a 8’0XXH with 2oz Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted April 19, 2024 Author Posted April 19, 2024 I'm not looking too heavy. Maybe 1/4 - 1oz with trailer probably 1/2oz + bait Quote
r83srock Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I have never used NRX or P5 but have used legend extreme and elite. I own SC victory and legend tournament and find them to be very sensitive. I really like my victory 7’3” HXF for pitching in heavy cover with baits that work well on a standard MH. Great rod for T-rigs and jigs but more versatile than the XF suggests. It’s like a MH+. It’s also got a quick accurate tip but it loads up nice on the hook set. This rod is available in legend tournament and physix. Quote
rangerjockey Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Fenwick has a 6ft 8 in both MH and H in the new World Class. Defiantly worth a look. Quote
Reel Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I own and I've used NRX's for pitching but my favorite and the one I always go back to is the Zodias 7' 2'' in MH or H. It's got that bit of a softer tip that gives so much precision in a cast and that makes it easy to use (fluid I call it). Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 19, 2024 Super User Posted April 19, 2024 Short pitching rod from a kayak, Megabass P5 Super Destroyer. You can use this rod for anything 3/8 - 1.25 oz. It does well with jigs, topwater, soft plastic, crankbaits, spinnerbaits and even a 6in Magdraft. It's sensitive but not as sensitive as an NRX+. It's big advantage is it's versatility and the length for a kayak. For example..... Last year I wanted to challenge myself to two things. One, catch 6 different species on one lure in the same day and second, use one setup to catch six fish with six different baits. I was able to do both with this rod on my kayak last fall. 1 Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted April 19, 2024 Super User Posted April 19, 2024 5 hours ago, Jeffrey Walker said: I'm not looking too heavy. Maybe 1/4 - 1oz with trailer probably 1/2oz + bait I'm not clear on if those are bait plus weight or bottom and top range weights. If you're talking 1/4-1/2 oz jigs and texas rigged weights plus a trailer/plastic then I'd say the Expert Head turner is going to be a great rod. Its only 6'10" but you asked for a bit shorter. It was designed as a short range pitching rod. Fast action, great power. Its my primary rod I grab every trip for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and swimjigs. I throw a lot of everything on it and its a great short range pitching rod. if you're talking about 3/8 on the bottom end (total weight) and going all the way up top 1 oz plus plastic then I stand by the Cara Amistad. Quote
softwateronly Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 For me, short pitching rods in descending weight are the MB Tequila Bacarac, Steez AGS 7’2 power pitch, and the MC Days 360 6’6MH. scott Quote
PBBrandon Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 The 7’3” HXF St. Croix is a special rod. It’s grown on me as an amazing pitching stick. I have the Legend Tournament model and it’s served me well pitching 1/4oz to 1/2oz to brush and trees. Has the tip to pitch accurately, and the backbone to horse big girls out and free snagged lures. The “H” is in the backbone, but it has a soft “MH” tip. Sounds like exactly what you are looking for. They make it in the Mojo line, victory, LTB, and Physix lines. The LTB (and I assume Physix) lines are very sensitive rods Id pair it with a Alphas/Zillion SV Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted April 20, 2024 Author Posted April 20, 2024 7 hours ago, softwateronly said: For me, short pitching rods in descending weight are the MB Tequila Bacarac, Steez AGS 7’2 power pitch, and the MC Days 360 6’6MH. scott I have the TB and i wouldn't say thata what i'm looking for way to stiff and not exactly sensitive. It's a great rod but for frogs and swim signs is what i use it for Quote
softwateronly Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: I have the TB and i wouldn't say thata what i'm looking for way to stiff and not exactly sensitive. It's a great rod but for frogs and swim signs is what i use it for To each their own. 1.25-1.5oz jigs handle well for me. scott Quote
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