Stock Daiwa T3 SV for BFS

[AsianFisherman]

Hi guys

 

Wondering if anyone uses it for BFS?

Tried using it before long ago with a deep spool for my daily fishing and I remembered it cast a mile.

Now it just sit in my storage collecting dust, wondering if it will be good for BFS.

Any replies and advices is appreciated, thanks!

[bulldog1935]

JapanTackle lists Daiwa choice - this is moving SV inductor - Silver Wolf Spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tug0000277.html

 

Roro-X spool, this is fixed inductor (linear mag only) for lightest weights to greatest distance.  

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu002410.html

 

Deeper Roro spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu001753.html

black in same spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu001733.html

 

Your reel should also take Ray's Studio SV spool for Steez/Zillion

AMO (fixed inductor) spool for Steez/Zillion

 

Ray's Studio SV and Daiwa Silver Wolf 34-mm spools:  

My 34-mm Daiwas, all set up for BFS

   

[AsianFisherman]

19 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

JapanTackle lists Daiwa choice - this is moving SV inductor - Silver Wolf Spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tug0000277.html

 

Roro-X spool, this is fixed inductor (linear mag only) for lightest weights to greatest distance.  

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu002410.html

 

Deeper Roro spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu001753.html

black in same spool

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/tu001733.html

 

Your reel should also take Ray's Studio SV spool for Steez/Zillion

AMO (fixed inductor) spool for Steez/Zillion

 

Ray's Studio SV and Daiwa Silver Wolf 34-mm spools:  

My 34-mm Daiwas, all set up for BFS

   

Thanks for the reply.

I have the stock SV spool, is that good enough for bfs?

Would be mounted on a kuying teton light rating rod

[WRB]

You can use 65# braid as a light weight backing and save a few grams.

Tom

[bulldog1935]

20 minutes ago, AsianFisherman said:

Thanks for the reply.

I have the stock SV spool, is that good enough for bfs?

Would be mounted on a kuying teton light rating rod

BFS = reel, by definition, combination of shallow lightweight spool, low-inertia spool bearings and threadline.  

The capacity of your deep spool is excessive for line w/ diameter equivalent to 4-lb mono (15-lb braid, etc.)  

One way to get around that is back your spool with 20-25 yds 20-25-lb mono, tie to your working line with a low-profile knot such as improved Allbright, and finish out the spool with your small-diameter working line.  

My deep-spool reels set-up this way have BFS bearings.  

 

 

But since aftermarket spools are made for your reel, you might be remiss not trying one.  

What you can gain with a $40 or $60 spool might blow you away.  

I pm'd you a couple of links

 

[new2BC4bass]

3 hours ago, AsianFisherman said:

Thanks for the reply.

I have the stock SV spool, is that good enough for bfs?

Would be mounted on a kuying teton light rating rod

If you are talking about a T3 1016, MX, or Ballistic then the stock spool is not an SV.  T3 series has Magforce 3D braking.  AFAIC it is harder to backlash a T3 than a reel with the SV spool.  I have all three T3 models.  Even with the brakes at the lowest setting and the lever set for Long Cast mode, I can cast it without backlashing.  I can't do that with an SV spooled reel....which I also have more than one of.

 

No personal experience with a BFS spool in these reels (T3), but I have read that they do a pretty good job casting light stuff with a BFS spool.  How light I don't remember.

 

Follow bulldog1935's advise.

 

EDIT:  Pretty sure the SV spool came out after the Magforce 3D of the T3's.  I believe a Magforce 3D reel is the absolute best reel to learn on.  You'd have to try hard in order to backlash it.  Like snagging something on the back cast.  Of the reels I own, I'd say the Exsence DC would be next in line followed by an SV reel.  Of course, any reel could be set up to be backlash free for a beginner.  Distance and accuracy would be tough, tho.

 

Over the last 15 years I have managed to accumulate reels from 10 manufacturers using various braking systems.  I'd already learned to cast by the time I purchased my first dual brake reel.  I don't know how one would perform set up to be backlash free for a beginner.  I have an older Patriarch XT that the brakes are set lower than any other reel I own (other than  a T3).

[Bigbox99]

Get a rays studio spool from Aliexpress where I assume you are getting the Teton L rod.  I have that rod and while I use it for bass throwing tiny hard baits, it is a trout rod and not suited for BFS in the traditional sense of tiny bass jigs and plastics fishing where bass live in cover.  A Majorcraft Benkei UL BFS will cast as light as the Teton L trout rod and be EMENSELY more powerful allowing you to collapse weed guards, drive hooks through plastic and steer the fish away from cover.  The trout wand can't do that.

[redmeansdistortion]

1 hour ago, Bigbox99 said:

Get a rays studio spool from Aliexpress where I assume you are getting the Teton L rod.  I have that rod and while I use it for bass throwing tiny hard baits, it is a trout rod and not suited for BFS in the traditional sense of tiny bass jigs and plastics fishing where bass live in cover.  A Majorcraft Benkei UL BFS will cast as light as the Teton L trout rod and be EMENSELY more powerful allowing you to collapse weed guards, drive hooks through plastic and steer the fish away from cover.  The trout wand can't do that.

I've landed plenty of Erie steelhead on my Kuying 6'6"L.  If you aren't one of those people that regularly fishes with a locked down drag, a "trout wand" will surprise you.  I fish lake run rainbows, browns, coho, and Atlantic salmon on BFS, they make your drag scream.  Most of these fish approach the 30" mark and can weigh in excess of 10lb.  A 24" fresh silver coho from Lake Michigan is a force to be reckoned with, seriously.  "Trout wands" have no trouble with them, because that's what they're made for.  They're designed to keep hard fighting fish pinned so they don't throw the hook, something they can do easier on a para taper bass rod.  Once the line goes slack, you're fighting a losing battle.  This is because the tip on the bass rod is overly stiff by comparison so there isn't constant tension on the line when the fish charges or shakes its head.  If you're having trouble setting hooks, using sharper hooks or sharpening your own works wonders.  If you aren't sure if a hook is sharp enough, gently drag it across your fingernail.  If it bites, it's sharp.  If not, replace or sharpen it.  In Japan, BFS isn't just used for stream trout, but also steelhead, coho, and cherry salmon.  Rods for them are in wide use in the northern prefectures such as Hokkaido.  They typically come in ML, M, and MH power.

 

 

 

[Bigbox99]

8 hours ago, redmeansdistortion said:

I've landed plenty of Erie steelhead on my Kuying 6'6"L.  If you aren't one of those people that regularly fishes with a locked down drag, a "trout wand" will surprise you.  I fish lake run rainbows, browns, coho, and Atlantic salmon on BFS, they make your drag scream.  Most of these fish approach the 30" mark and can weigh in excess of 10lb.  A 24" fresh silver coho from Lake Michigan is a force to be reckoned with, seriously.  "Trout wands" have no trouble with them, because that's what they're made for.  They're designed to keep hard fighting fish pinned so they don't throw the hook, something they can do easier on a para taper bass rod.  Once the line goes slack, you're fighting a losing battle.  This is because the tip on the bass rod is overly stiff by comparison so there isn't constant tension on the line when the fish charges or shakes its head.  If you're having trouble setting hooks, using sharper hooks or sharpening your own works wonders.  If you aren't sure if a hook is sharp enough, gently drag it across your fingernail.  If it bites, it's sharp.  If not, replace or sharpen it.  In Japan, BFS isn't just used for stream trout, but also steelhead, coho, and cherry salmon.  Rods for them are in wide use in the northern prefectures such as Hokkaido.  They typically come in ML, M, and MH power.

 

 

 

It's not the size of the fish the Teton L struggles with.  It's the terminal tackle and habitat bass inhabit that make the rod a poor choice.  The Teton can't collapse a fiber weed guard and drive a bitsy bug hook home in a single hooksett

 of the rod.  The rod just folds in half because the blank is the diameter of a tooth pick.  It even struggles with weedless ned rigs.  This not to mention moving a fish out from under a dock once hooked.  It's not the rods fault.  It's a not a bass rod.   It's not meant to do those things and there are BFS or BF versions of bass rod lines like Benkei, Volkey, Speedstyle, Zodias, Expride and many more that do just that because they are built to do that.  Different tools for different species of fish.   

[redmeansdistortion]

5 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

It's not the size of the fish the Teton L struggles with.  It's the terminal tackle and habitat bass inhabit that make the rod a poor choice.  The Teton can't collapse a fiber weed guard and drive a bitsy bug hook home in a single hooksett

 of the rod.  The rod just folds in half because the blank is the diameter of a tooth pick.  It even struggles with weedless ned rigs.  This not to mention moving a fish out from under a dock once hooked.  It's not the rods fault.  It's a not a bass rod.   It's not meant to do those things and there are BFS or BF versions of bass rod lines like Benkei, Volkey, Speedstyle, Zodias, Expride and many more that do just that because they are built to do that.  Different tools for different species of fish.   

Absolutely.  Bass rods are much better for fishing the slop.  Back 25 years ago, people thought I was crazy fishing Lake St Clair smallmouth with my 7'6" 4-10lb 1/8-3/8 Lamias G1000.  I was able to hang on to them as they tried to lose me in the reeds, plus with the more lively tip I was able to cast to targets that weren't reachable by the guys I was fishing with.  I miss that rod, it was from when Lamiglas made truly great rods.  I lost it a few years back when my friend's hard tonneau cover slammed shut and snapped it on a steelhead trip.