Road To The Superbowl 2025

[Mike L]

1 hour ago, Choporoz said:

Probably the homer in me, but I see it differently. 

   Love sat for three years, learning firsthand from one of the best to ever play the game.  He had a somewhat weak first half a season but still had an overall better season than 2/3 of the league's QBs by most any measure. 

  Every contract should be hope over results.  Doesn't do any good to pay a premium for past performance. 

  The cap hits are actually pretty reasonable.... for now: 21M this year, 30M next, and 36M in 2026, 43M in 2027.  It's not like they sold the farm for next few years.

   Sure, every team would love to get a stud starting 3-4 yrars on a rookie contract.  How often does that happen?  Stroud isn't exactly a regular phenomenon, that you can replicate....

 

sorry Chicago... your new owner is every bit as likely to have a great career as your next QB.  Difference is one organization develops great QBs, the other... uh... doesn’t 

Yeah, well the Homer in me sees it as I said. 
If 7-8 great games is enough to warrant being the highest paid player the owners will have no choice in slotting contracts. 
Won’t be in my lifetime but I see no other way to combat the “next man up” mentality if they can justify it with such a tiny sample size. 

Respectfully disagree that all contracts should be hope over results.
If that was the case every 1st round rookie drafted every year regardless of position would be “the next man up”
 

Now, that said I get it…

That “team from Wisconsin” (can’t say the words) have had a run of successful QB’s that will probably never be matched again. 
They see something in him, they reworked 2 yrs of his contact for the 5th year option and now they gotta pay. 
 

Stroud is an outlier, maybe Williams or the other first round guys can match it or even come close but I’m not holding my breath. 
That’s where my hope comes in. 
 

Considering 40 something percent of first round QB’s don’t live up to the billing, what happened with your guy won’t happen again either anymore other than maybe Penix.
You learn by doing but Love seemed to have put it all together because Lefluer changed some things by going to more of a motion/play action game for him 1/2 way through and your guy took advantage of it. 
Good for him. 

 

Oh, by the way we’ve had the same ownership for 104 yrs. 
Good or bad it is what it is. 

You guys do QB’s, all 2 maybe 3 of them, yeah I get it. 
😀
 

 

 

 

Mike

[Choporoz]

14 minutes ago, Mike L said:

 Oh, by the way we’ve had the same ownership for 104 yrs. 

I must have fallen for some fake news.  I thought they changed ownership 

 

[Mike L]

7 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

I must have fallen for some fake news.  I thought they changed ownership 

 

You’re killing me man, you’re freakin killing me!!

(didn’t think it would have taken this long)

😃

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[J._Bricker]

Keep talking QB pay structures, my team doesn’t have to worry about it until some time next year. Since the wideout pay scale got pushed into the crazy range, maybe Aiyuk will get the extension he wants this year or into next year when some money is freed up. In the meantime, maybe more time will be devoted to blocking responsibilities especially when it comes to leaving Chris Jones unblocked. 
 

Oh well, the march to the Super Bowl begins… Go Niners!

[Texas Flood]

#1 Brock Purdy fan right here!

[Glenn]

[MN Fisher]

[flyfisher]

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, Choporoz said:

Cowboys odds must simply be propped up by having lots of unrealistic fans willing to part with their cash.  No way you can convince me that they have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl than 27 other teams.  Maybe ahead of Raiders, Cardinals, Pats, Commanders, Panthers and Bears....another 6 or 8 I'd say wash ....but probably 15-18 teams I would bet on before Dallas.  

   I do sorta enjoy that Dak looked good enough for a while that they are willing to put full faith in him once again.  The ratcheted up disappointment is going to be fun

That is exactly what it is.  Cowboys have not been able to win in the playoffs and they know they will get money from cowboys fans if the line is worth looking at to the casual fan.

[gim]

That’s not how odds are initially set. They are initially set by stats and math folks who look at talent, schedule, history, location, injuries, and previous results. Then the line can slightly move based on bets coming in. Rarely does a line move by more than one game or point even when millions come in betting for or against a single team.

 

Here are their current odds for the upcoming season for the Cowboys. Over/under 10.5 wins, 18-1 to win the super bowl, 2.5 to 1 to make the playoffs, and +165 to win the NFC East.

 

At 18-1 odds to win the super bowl, that’s 10th in the league out of 32 teams.

[gim]

Vikings first round QB draft pick JJ McCarthy had surgery for a torn meniscus in his knee today after suffering the damage in pre season game number 1 on Saturday.  Unfortunately, the worst has been confirmed.  Its a full surgical repair and he will miss the entire season, with up to a 6 month recovery.

 

Granted, he was not going to be the starting QB this season but now he isn't going to play at all.  Definitely going to hinder his progression moving forward.

 

The Vikings draft a QB and he gets injured for the season in game 1 of the pre season.  They draft a cornerback and he dies in a car crash.  What are the chances.

[Texas Flood]

And now Jordan Addison suffered a leg injury at practice. Sad day for my brothers and sisters from the land of 10,000 lakes.

[throttleplate]

4 hours ago, gimruis said:

Vikings first round QB draft pick JJ McCarthy had surgery for a torn meniscus in his knee today after suffering the damage in pre season game number 1 on Saturday.  Unfortunately, the worst has been confirmed.  Its a full surgical repair and he will miss the entire season, with up to a 6 month recovery.

 

Granted, he was not going to be the starting QB this season but now he isn't going to play at all.  Definitely going to hinder his progression moving forward.

 

The Vikings draft a QB and he gets injured for the season in game 1 of the pre season.  They draft a cornerback and he dies in a car crash.  What are the chances.

 

Curse of Teddy Bridgewater, wonder how Jefferson feels losing a whole year of McCarthy and him getting acclimated?

I tore my cartlidge in my knee way back in 1985 and the drs clipped it, smoothed it and i have been fine to this day, yeah i know i am not a superstar athlete but i played enough sports since then to have noticed any problems but not even arthritis has come into play. Just wonder how bad it was to go full repair?

[throttleplate]

I am thinking about buying tickets to the vikings, packers game in minneapolis on dec 30, if the vikes have a bad record maybe secondary market tickets may be cheap. I have also in the past seen in the Fargo newspaper vikes tickets for sale when the packers come to Minn.

 

I sat in the stadium a few years ago and was high up and didnt enjoy the view or seats at all, the seats were very small and at 5ft 9in my knees were hitting the backrest of the seat in front of me. I will only do this if the tickets are cheap and i dont want to drive to green bay to see the pack.

[gim]

That late in the season, the cost of secondary tickets will be dictated by each teams record. Generally speaking the Packers and Bears games are the two most expensive ones because they are in higher demand.

 

Fans are packed in like sardines at every stadium, that’s not anything new. You will rub elbows with drunk strangers for a few hours. I usually go to one game per season, and that’s why one is enough for me.

[Glenn]

My prediction: Seahawks will go 10-7....one better than last season.

 

As for the SB?  A Chiefs/49rs prediction is the easy bet.  But if Mahomes gets injured and sidelined, all bets are off.  For that matter, injuries will be a factor this year.

[Mike L]

Bears will finish 9-8, 2 better than last year 

Miss the last playoff spot by 1 game to the Rams

(Caleb Williams..4,075 yds, 26Td’s 10 int

Rush for 425 yds and 4 td’s)

That “Team from Wisconsin” and Detroit will finish 10-7 with Detroit winning the tie breaker for the Division and lose in the first round. 

 

Minn 7-10

 

SB.. SF 27- Baltimore 21

 

You heard it all here first 

😜

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

[gim]

Its hard to bet against Kansas City.  Even though the Niners have better odds (again).

 

I thought their reign would come to an end when they were forced to go on the road in the playoffs, first at Buffalo, and then at Baltimore.  All of their previous success in the post season was at home.  They proved me wrong on that one.

 

Detroit came very close to beating the Niners in the NFC Championship.  And they maybe could have beaten KC in the Super Bowl too - they had already beaten them in week 1 on the road.

 

I generally agree with @Mike L predictions in the NFC North.  The Lions are still the best team in in that division.  I'll say 11-6 for Detroit gets it done there.

[Texas Flood]

Need Burrow and the Bengals to do the only thing most AFC teams cant and knock the Chiefs out during the playoffs.

 

[TnRiver46]

5 hours ago, Texas Flood said:

Need Burrow and the Bengals to do the only thing most AFC teams cant and knock the Chiefs out during the playoffs.

 

Go bungles!!! He’s done it before a time or 2 

[deaknh03]

[gim]

Here are the most updated Super Bowl odds for every team in the league, one week out (even though there is a game on Thursday and Friday).  My source is Fanduel Sportsbook.  The Lions having the second best odds in the NFC is a bit of an eye opener.  The roar has been restored.

 

49ers 5-1

Chiefs 6-1

Ravens 10-1

Lions 12-1

Bengals 13-1

Eagles 15-1

Texans, Bills 16-1

Packers, Jets, Cowboys 18-1

Dolphins 22-1

Rams, Falcons 30-1

Bears 35-1

Browns 40-1

Chargers, Steelers, Jaguars 45-1

Seahawks 65-1

Colts 75-1

Bucs, Vikings 80-1

Cardinals, Saints, Raiders 100-1

Commanders 120-1

Titans, Giants 150-1

Broncos 250-1

Patriots, Panthers 300-1

 

[Texas Flood]

Broncos aren’t the worst, woo!

[BrianMDTX]

Looking forward to Thursday. Hopefully with King Henry, the Ravens do not abandon the run and pound the rock down KC’s throat. Losing three OL in the off-season may turn out to be hard to overcome. 

[gim]

Can't say I agree with the GB-Philly game being exclusive to Peacock.  Looks like I won't be watching any of that game on Friday.  They did that last January with the Miami-KC game too and I missed that one because I don't have Peacock.

[Glenn]

Yup, I'm not signing up for any streaming services just to watch sports.  If it keeps going that way, I'll back to the good 'ol FREE radio to listen to games.