Arked Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 Hey! I need some help with understanding the line weight/rating on St. Croix rods. Apologies if this is obvious but I'm from the EU and it's not something we are used to seeing on rods over here. I am looking at buying a casting rod with line weight of 14-25 lb. This rod is designated as Heavy with lure weight of 3/4 - 2 3/4 oz. The exact model is LTPC223HF2. I intend to run it with Curado K 201 HG baitcaster spooled with braid. Frankly I have concerns that I will cast off the lure on a backlash with a 25 lb line & ~2 3/4 oz. lure. Am I fine with going for a higher LB braid (35-40) or should I stick to the rating on the rod (which i dont think is realistic and good for my wallet..🙂). Should I understand this rating literally for all lines types, treat is as a "mono rating" or just simply ignore it? Thanks for all the answers and greetings from Poland! 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted April 2, 2024 Super User Posted April 2, 2024 The line ratings are for mono/FC - pretty much ignore them for braid. My flip/pitch rod is rated for 12#-25# line....I run 50# braid on it with no issues. 3 Quote
Eric 26 Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 24 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: The line ratings are for mono/FC - pretty much ignore them for braid. My flip/pitch rod is rated for 12#-25# line....I run 50# braid on it with no issues. ⬆️What he said😉 1 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted April 3, 2024 Super User Posted April 3, 2024 The important thing here is set your reel drag to no more than 1/4 of the max line rating (= 6 lbs) - to avoid breaking your rod on a set and/or a fish reaction. 4 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 3, 2024 Super User Posted April 3, 2024 If Google is correct, that is a musky rod and is pretty stout. If you are set on braid, I would go with 50lb but I would also try to pay attention to the line diameter and match it closely to the type of lures you are using. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted April 3, 2024 Super User Posted April 3, 2024 Absolutely don't go with 25# braid on that rod. I threw a 1/2 oz. jig half way across the lake when my 30# braid got wrapped around the tip of my spinning rod without me noticing it. I imagine an aerodynamic 2 oz. lure would have made the full distance. I put 60# braid on my frog rod (7'6" HF) and feel it hurt casting distance, but I am not casting frogs even at the low end rating of that rod. For my use, 50# braid will probably be better for me. If you are casting expensive lures and want to stick with braid, you might want to try even heavier than 60# braid. Ask the guys using larger swimbaits what they use. Currently my heaviest lures are listed as 7/8 oz. My preference is mono/co-polymer except for some situations. Have 20# Sufix Advance to try, but currently 17# mono is my heaviest line in use (outside of braid). 1 Quote
Arked Posted April 3, 2024 Author Posted April 3, 2024 All clear, as advised I will go with a higher LB braid. Will probably test 40-50 LB with some soft lures before I move to expensive hard baits. If I keep casting the soft lures off i will switch to even higher LB. Thank you all! 1 Quote
Hulkster Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 So I have to ask, are you fishing for giant pike with that setup? If you don't want to use braid, you can use a good quality 20 pound mono like Suffix Siege. I use this on my tranx 400 on my MH musky rod (rated for up to 3oz lures) and it casts lures like big swimbaits a mile. 1 Quote
Arked Posted April 3, 2024 Author Posted April 3, 2024 2 hours ago, Hulkster said: So I have to ask, are you fishing for giant pike with that setup? That's the plan, I am going to Sweden end of this month to fish for a big pike. I prefer to stick with braid, that is something I am familiar with. I am also not new to casting. But I am new to St. Croix and their way of labeling the line weight, that is what caused confustion and raised the questions. 2 Quote
zell_pop1 Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 I'd go with braid that measures about the same as typical 14-25 lb mono. For instance Suffix 832 65lb braid measure .40mm just like their 17lb mono. I'd run some leader material also. 1 Quote
KYKBassing Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 I purchased the same rod (although it's a one piece) with the intention of using for larger swimbaits & rat lures. I have the reel loaded with 60lb braid. I haven't had much chance to try it out, but I don't think you'll have any issues with 50-60 lb braid. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted April 3, 2024 Super User Posted April 3, 2024 13 hours ago, Arked said: If I keep casting the soft lures off i will switch to even higher LB. 9 times out of 10 - casting a lure off is caused by knot failure...not line failure. 1 Quote
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