snowplow Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 Hey guys, this is never really been on my radar but I was reading about how good they are. Have you some in the past but never thought about it. I got a couple questions for you. Are all owner hooks cutting points or just specific ones? Do I remember correctly that VMCs are cutting points? Are they all? What other brands do cutting points? Thanks guys Quote
Fishingmickey Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 Trokar, I believe it the "other" cutting point. I'm not a fan of the cutting hook points. I think they can make the hole bigger and still fall out as easily. I prefer the sharp point and lighter gauge coated hooks. Gamakatsu Hybrid, Mike McClennan hook and I want to try out the new Gammy Nano Alpha hooks too. I don't do a lot of flipping/punching into heavy cover with heavy braid and triple X strong hooks. That might be a instance where the cutting point would be helpful. FM 2 Quote
GReb Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 The only Owner hook I use is the Jungle flipping hook and it has the needle style point. I can’t see a scenario where you’d need anything outside a basic needle point. It’s the best at penetrating… Quote
Aaron_H Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 I've thrown the Trokar TK130 flipping hook quite a bit, but I've retired them. As others said, they seem to leave a much larger hole/wound in the fish and I never really saw a marked increase in hook/land ratio. YMMV. 1 Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 My favorite hook is an Owner Cutting Point. I use them on a lot of my jigs. They also have worm hooks and stuff with a cutting point. Like said above not all of their hooks are cutting point. There was also another company called X Point but I dont know if they are still around or go by a different name now. That was a few moons ago when I used them.😁 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 27, 2024 Super User Posted March 27, 2024 I avoided Owner cutting point hooks when they 1st came out thinking they would tear out. Gamakatsu were needle points and worked good. Don’t recall when I started using Owner cutting point hooks but my fears were unfounded, good hooks that actuallly have a needle point that transition to a knife edge. Owner also offers needle point hooks. Tokar are a true knife edge cutting point hook, haven’t used it so no experience. Tom Quote
Peacedivision Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 I use the owner SSW cutting point hooks for sharks/rays in the bay and they seem to work fine. Didn't pick them for any reason beyond availability. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 27, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 27, 2024 I’ve used Trokar hooks exclusively except for 1 presentation for years and have no reason to change. I haven’t experienced an inordinate amount of larger than normal mouth wounds compared to other style hooks that some see. Mike 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 27, 2024 Super User Posted March 27, 2024 I can't completely discount reports of tearing, but in at least 20 years of using Owner cutting point hooks, I really haven't seen a problem or trend that would make me change what I use. 2 Quote
RRocket Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 9 hours ago, snowplow said: Are all owner hooks cutting points or just specific ones? My current favorite hooks are Owners with a "super needle point". Wonder what makes it "super" over traditional needle hooks? LOL 😆 Quote
Phelptwan Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 I personally hate them. I know it's anecdotal but wacky rigging is my bread and butter and I rarely lose fish when I'm doing it. I tried a Trokar (I think) for several weeks in the summer and I lost more fish than I care to recall, and the ones I did catch the hook always fell right out as soon as I lipped it or got it in the boat. Went back to the Gamakatsu's and all was well. Quote
rgasr63 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 The owner offset wide gap hook with the cutting point is a excellent hook. The Trokar hook is good for people who need help with their hookset power because it is very sharp and easy to penetrate. The owner hook does a super job of penetration also but it doesn't seem to tear up plastics as fast. I have a pack of the new gammy hooks with the nano and I think they do just about as good as the owner hooks. Mind you I only have had that one pack. I'm still sold on owner so far. Quote
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