Hank Parker's Controversial Take on FFF!!

[TnRiver46]

Just saw Hank say he has $32k worth of electronics on his boat, including FFS

[Catt]

On 3/29/2024 at 6:03 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

Many veteran anglers are buying it as a fishing tool and learning that everything they thought they knew about bass is wrong.

 

Sorry but I don't see that at all!

 

What I do see is it verifies a lot of what I previously thought.

 

It also proves one thing I've always thought, bass are where they wanna be, when they wanna be there, doing what they wanna do.

 

FFS does not guarantee you'll catch em once you find them.

[Pat Brown]

4 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Sorry but I don't see that at all!

 

What I do see is it verifies a lot of what I previously thought.

 

It also proves one thing I've always thought, bass are where they wanna be, when they wanna be there, doing what they wanna do.

 

FFS does not guarantee you'll catch em once you find them.

 

I'm learning that nothing guarantees that you'll catch them once you find them, regardless of the technology we are using to find them... Especially if they find you first 😉

[Catt]

@Pat Brown One thing I am seeing along with many other anglers is that FFS is actually starting to spook the fish. This was l also verified by Todd Driscoll's radio telemetry study where he not only used radio transmitters but FFS as well. 

[F14A-B]

18 minutes ago, Catt said:

@Pat Brown One thing I am seeing along with many other anglers is that FFS is actually starting to spook the fish. This was l also verified by Todd Driscoll's radio telemetry study where he not only used radio transmitters but FFS as well. 

Interesting. But not surprising. I wonder if there could be health affects on those fish.. (as it pertains to FFS)

 

Have you uncovered anything on this? 

[Troy85]

31 minutes ago, Catt said:

@Pat Brown One thing I am seeing along with many other anglers is that FFS is actually starting to spook the fish. This was l also verified by Todd Driscoll's radio telemetry study where he not only used radio transmitters but FFS as well. 

Will be start seeing articles about avoiding the pressured fish offshore by beating the bank for the less pressured bass? 

[Catt]

@alonerankin2 Why would it?

 

@Troy85 After 3 1/2 days last week on Toledo Bend & 4 anglers, every single bass was caught without it. 

 

Now there were bass caught with it, just not where we were. Seen plenty bait, seen plenty bass, they just wouldn't bite. 

 

Can I prove it was the FFS?

No, but when we specifically targeted bass on the screen, nuthin. When we fished pre-spawn/spawn areas without looking at FFS, we caught.

 

Why?

Couldn't tell ya! 😉

[TnRiver46]

On 4/3/2024 at 8:24 AM, Catt said:

 

 

It also proves one thing I've always thought, bass are where they wanna be, when they wanna be there, doing what they wanna do.

 

You have indeed always said this and I have always agreed. Bass don’t have to do what humans think they should do . 
 

deep water is still the home of the fish after all these years 

 

unless of course deep water is unavailable, then they live where they are 😂 

[gim]

On 4/3/2024 at 8:12 AM, Troy85 said:

Will be start seeing articles about avoiding the pressured fish offshore by beating the bank for the less pressured bass? 

 

I heard that this began on some highly pressured lakes last season here in MN.  So many tournament anglers were focused on deeper, offshore structure that shallow shoreline cover such as docks came back into play, and that's where more and bigger fish were caught.  Its funny how it used to be the opposite.

[Reel]

On 4/3/2024 at 8:24 AM, Catt said:

 

 

It also proves one thing I've always thought, bass are where they wanna be, when they wanna be there, doing what they wanna do.

 

FFS does not guarantee you'll catch em once you find them.

This was said twice now and I have a different opinion.  Fisherman have a tendency to ''humanize'' bass.  Fish don't wanna do anything.  They are animals and work on instinct, not will.  Bass are where they need to be, when they need to be, doing what they need to do and the three things their instinct tells them to do, is survive, eat and reproduce.  If you understand their needs, you know where they are.  

[Catt]

2 hours ago, Reel said:

This was said twice now and I have a different opinion

 

Ya saying the same thing...different words.

[Susky River Rat]

@Reel they certainly do not have bills to pay.

[Texas Flood]

3 hours ago, Reel said:

This was said twice now and I have a different opinion.  Fisherman have a tendency to ''humanize'' bass.  Fish don't wanna do anything.  They are animals and work on instinct, not will.  Bass are where they need to be, when they need to be, doing what they need to do and the three things their instinct tells them to do, is survive, eat and reproduce.  If you understand their needs, you know where they are.  

Are you a fish? By law, you have to tell me.

[Woody B]

On 4/3/2024 at 10:12 AM, Catt said:

No, but when we specifically targeted bass on the screen, nuthin. When we fished pre-spawn/spawn areas without looking at FFS, we caught.

 

 

A few weeks ago I discovered I had a wiring problem (voltage drop in my fuse block) that made all my sonar pretty much useless.  I turned it all off and caught my 2 biggest Bass of the year.  Before I discovered the problem I was seeing pretty much no Bass, or any life anywhere on the lake.  I was not casting into areas I probably should have been due to a blank screen.    

 

I'll try something this weekend.  If I "see" Bass but can't catch them I'll leave for a bit, turn off all my transducers then come back and see if they'll bite.  

 

 

Added/Edit-  I don't have a BUNCH of transducers.  I've got 1 Active Target transducer and 1 Lowrance 3 in 1 transducer.  

[Reel]

1 hour ago, Texas Flood said:

Are you a fish? By law, you have to tell me.

Yes. I was born in March.

[Bird]

7 minutes ago, Reel said:

Yes. I was born in March.

Pisces I got it.

BUT you do realize you can " identify " as a fish and subsequently have to be treated as such. 😁

[Susky River Rat]

@Reel what species?

 

I’ve heard that the ping of the electronics affects fish. I really do not know if it’s that which I think would have little effect on them. I think the bigger reason is this fish went from never being caught. “Big and stupid” to now be harassed non stop. I read an article early into the FFS days and they guy described jt as harrasabass fishing.  Fish that have lures in front  of them all the time are going to bite less. 

 

 

[Woody B]

I've often wondered what sonar pings Bass can hear.....or feel with their lateral lines.  I'm sure there's been studies done but I haven't tried to find any.  I can hear 2D sonar pings at 83hz.  It sounds like something "ticking".    I can't here pings at any other frequency.  

 

When I pull up to a spot I'm going to fish I deploy my trolling motor and start the pinging on my Active Target.  (~1200 hz IIRC).   White Perch and Bluegill will swim up to my trolling motor.   After I got Active Target I put several types and kinds of baits in my boat to determine what these curious fish were.  (Water isn't clear enough to see).   I wonder if they swim up due to the sonar, or if they would swim up by simply deploying my trolling motor.  

[Pat Brown]

10 hours ago, Woody B said:

I've often wondered what sonar pings Bass can hear.....or feel with their lateral lines.  I'm sure there's been studies done but I haven't tried to find any.  I can hear 2D sonar pings at 83hz.  It sounds like something "ticking".    I can't here pings at any other frequency.  

 

When I pull up to a spot I'm going to fish I deploy my trolling motor and start the pinging on my Active Target.  (~1200 hz IIRC).   White Perch and Bluegill will swim up to my trolling motor.   After I got Active Target I put several types and kinds of baits in my boat to determine what these curious fish were.  (Water isn't clear enough to see).   I wonder if they swim up due to the sonar, or if they would swim up by simply deploying my trolling motor.  

 

 

I think power poles/anchors and knowing where to position your boat before you work an area is an art form and I am still learning that art form very much.

 

I think a big part of this art is turning just about everything off when you're doing this kind of work from the boat.  It's a style of fishing that tricks really smart fish when anglers have time and patience to do it (not a tournament).