Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 28, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 28, 2024 I got a call from a friend who asked me to fish a team tournament with him next month as his regular partner backed out. One of the first things he said to me was that he didn’t have FFS. It was like he was apologizing and asked “if that would make a difference” to me if I fished or not. Mike 2 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted March 28, 2024 Super User Posted March 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mike L said: I got a call from a friend who asked me to fish a team tournament with him next month as his regular partner backed out. One of the first things he said to me was that he didn’t have FFS. It was like he was apologizing and asked “if that would make a difference” to me if I fished or not. Mike I'm confused. You called him your "friend", but you also said he didn't have FFS. How is that even possible?🤪 5 Quote
Troy85 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Bankc said: I'm confused. You called him your "friend", but you also said he didn't have FFS. How is that even possible?🤪 Friends don't let friends fish without FFS! 🤣 1 1 4 Quote
Super User Bird Posted March 28, 2024 Super User Posted March 28, 2024 30 minutes ago, Mike L said: I got a call from a friend who asked me to fish a team tournament with him next month as his regular partner backed out. One of the first things he said to me was that he didn’t have FFS. It was like he was apologizing and asked “if that would make a difference” to me if I fished or not. Mike Wow, that speaks volumes. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 28, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, Bird said: Wow, that speaks volumes. Yes it does! it took me back a little when said it and the thing is he was dead serious. It just shows the changing mind set now. He really felt we would be at a disadvantage that we would have to use our minds, intuition, experience and the ability to make smart choices.., All the things we’ve been doing since our beginnings. In my opinion it’s sad that it’s come down to questioning our basic abilities to compete to catch a fish without having a crutch. Mike 3 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 28, 2024 Super User Posted March 28, 2024 I can tell y'all one the for certain, I'm on Toledo Bend right now & FFS ain't making a difference! We're seeing em but the ain't biting nuthin. Just cause you see em doesn't mean you can catch em! The 5 I've caught was without out it! 7 1 Quote
Texas Flood Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 But I was told all you had to do was plop a ball head jig on their nose? 1 1 Quote
CaughtMeABiggun Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 18 hours ago, Tennessee Boy said: A learning tool is a tool that helps you learn something. One of the most common ways we learn is through observation. Microscopes, telescopes, regular sonar, underwater cameras, and FFS are all examples of tools that help you learn by observation. One of the things FFS has opened my eyes to is how bait fish move throughout the day and during different seasons. The learning possibilities are endless when you can see how fish move. You don’t even have to be an angler to learn from it. @Catt posted a video a while back showing how Texas Wildlife officials were using it to study bass behavior. This is exactly what I’m talking about. If you want to use it and never put a fishing line in the water or throw a hookless bait to see how the bass react then yes it could be justified as a learning tool. But the minute you start using it to catch bass it is no longer a learning tool. Has anyone heard anyone say that they purchased FFS to learn the behaviors of fish, but do not and will not use it to catch a fish? The general public are not buying FFS to observe the behaviors of fish. The observation is a by product of catching fish using FFS. 2 Quote
Super User Koz Posted March 29, 2024 Super User Posted March 29, 2024 Even with FFS: 1. You still have to find the fish 2. You still have to catch the fish One way to level the playing field in pro tournaments would be to ban practice within 7 days or 14 days or even 30 days of the event. FFS does provide some advantages once you find the fish, but it’s not like XBox fishing as some would have you believe. 3 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted March 29, 2024 Super User Posted March 29, 2024 5 hours ago, CaughtMeABiggun said: If you want to use it and never put a fishing line in the water or throw a hookless bait to see how the bass react then yes it could be justified as a learning tool. Justified to who? I’m not looking for justification. It can be both a learning tool and a fishing tool. Many veteran anglers are buying it as a fishing tool and learning that everything they thought they knew about bass is wrong. 5 Quote
Skunkmaster-k Posted March 29, 2024 Posted March 29, 2024 Hank Parker and Jeff Foxworthy look a lot alike. I was just thinking a joke Foxworthy should use. You might be a redneck if FFS is the biggest scandal in your life. Not bad, huh ?! 6 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 29, 2024 Super User Posted March 29, 2024 Did anyone catch the line by Hank in that video that FFS is reducing the number of lures purchased? He needs to go visit the latest tackle purchase thread here. Bass Resource has a serious bait monkey problem. @TnRiver46 I believe this is the GIF you are looking for 4 pages ago... 1 4 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 29, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 29, 2024 3 hours ago, gimruis said: Did anyone catch the line by Hank in that video that FFS is reducing the number of lures purchased? He needs to go visit the latest tackle purchase thread here. Bass Resource has a serious bait monkey problem. @TnRiver46 I believe this is the GIF you are looking for 4 pages ago... That’s it! Yeah I’m pretty sure if you can see a crappie jig on FFS you can see…. Any lure people throw what they eat if possible Quote
pier_man0909 Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/29/2024 at 1:27 PM, gimruis said: Did anyone catch the line by Hank in that video that FFS is reducing the number of lures purchased? He needs to go visit the latest tackle purchase thread here. Bass Resource has a serious bait monkey problem. @TnRiver46 I believe this is the GIF you are looking for 4 pages ago... I just think hes just repeating randys nonsense. after all he did say "I listen to randy blauket and I agree with him" and randy came out with a video a couple weeks ago saying that ffs is responsible for mom and pop tackle shops closing down because they dont sell enough lures anymore. the hypocrisy in that is that in every video he encourages his followers to shop at tackle warehouse and use his link and thanks them for doing so. 4 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 30, 2024 Super User Posted March 30, 2024 According to social media contacts many boaters are running ads for co-anglers, offering to pay their fees.. Makes sense, who’d want to fish behind a guy using FFS all day, everyday.. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted March 31, 2024 Super User Posted March 31, 2024 On 3/28/2024 at 11:37 PM, CaughtMeABiggun said: This is exactly what I’m talking about. If you want to use it and never put a fishing line in the water or throw a hookless bait to see how the bass react then yes it could be justified as a learning tool. But the minute you start using it to catch bass it is no longer a learning tool. Has anyone heard anyone say that they purchased FFS to learn the behaviors of fish, but do not and will not use it to catch a fish? The general public are not buying FFS to observe the behaviors of fish. The observation is a by product of catching fish using FFS. This is where success lies, yes you purchase it to fish with and you LEARN with it. Those that just use it to try and catch fish fail. They don't understand it,they can't figure it out, they get frustrated by it, then don't use it anymore. I use mine to see everything and half the time I fish shallow and it's useless to me other then the depth or showing me bottom in front of me We all fish bads and love it, the more you learn the better you become. The arguments for it to be banned have zero merrit I mean should we ban spotlock trolling motors, shallow water anchors, DC casting reels.....they all are tools yet we are cherry picking. Bottom line, learning how to fish with ffs is a technique. Just like frog fishing, punching. Or fishing large swimbaits. Some are good at it, some aren't. So we should ban things that you learned to be better so we are all mediocre? It's a tool just like everything else, if you're hung up on what everyone else is doing you're already beaten mentality. 3 Quote
Johnbt Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 And yet fishing with live bait is still against the rules. What are they afraid of, losing to some old guy with no electronics stuff? 2 Quote
slowworm Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 52 minutes ago, Johnbt said: And yet fishing with live bait is still against the rules. What are they afraid of, losing to some old guy with no electronics stuff? 1 5 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 31, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Johnbt said: And yet fishing with live bait is still against the rules. What are they afraid of, losing to some old guy with no electronics stuff? Never underestimate the power of an old guy! Mike 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted March 31, 2024 Super User Posted March 31, 2024 19 minutes ago, Mike L said: Never underestimate the power of an old guy! Mike I am sure there are old guy's out there with live bait, and FFS who are crushing them. You don't hear about them, because they keep their mouths shut, and shun social media. 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 31, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 31, 2024 @king fisher, hey watch it! I know how to use some social media 😂 but FFS I sure don’t Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 31, 2024 Super User Posted March 31, 2024 I priced a Ranger rig w mercury motor for about 90k.. The Triton was about 63k Toy truck is how much?? Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted April 1, 2024 Super User Posted April 1, 2024 12 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: @king fisher, hey watch it! I know how to use some social media 😂 but FFS I sure don’t Have 3 different guys in my club that want me to teach them how ffs works. 2 of them have had it for over a year and still can't get it. Funny thing, it only is really useful for me maybe 4mo a year. Other then that it's just my bow depth finder. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted April 1, 2024 Global Moderator Posted April 1, 2024 @gulfcaptain, I don’t have FFS but I’ve seen it in a friends boat, way outside of my skill set haha. I even took the regular fish finder off my bow, more trouble than it’s worth for me Quote
Johnbt Posted April 1, 2024 Posted April 1, 2024 Social media? Old people? The co-founders of Myspace are 59 and 53. That's almost-old. The www was invented by old people. My 7-year-old grandson asked me how I knew so much about computers. I told him I was using them before his father was born in '83. He looked at me for a minute and said, "How old are you?" 1 2 Quote
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